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To: i-node who wrote (542752)	1/11/2010 12:05:27 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573901

This the discussion about Ben Gurion airport in Tel Aviv: "But in telling ways, the two experiences remain notably different. For example, passengers in the United States are required to take off their shoes for X-ray screening, while passengers at Ben Gurion are spared that indignity. On the other hand, major American airports generally offer the convenience of curbside check-in, while in Israel baggage and traveler stay together until the security check is completed. Screeners at American airports don't usually engage in conversation with passengers, unless you count their endlessly repeated instructions about emptying pockets and taking laptops out of briefcases. At Ben Gurion, security officials make a point of engaging in dialogue with almost everyone who's catching a plane. Nearly five years after Sept. 11, 2001, US airport security remains obstinately focused on intercepting bad things -- guns, knives, explosives. It is a reactive policy, aimed at preventing the last terrorist plot from being repeated. The 9/11 hijackers used box cutters as weapons, so sharp metal objects were barred from carry-on luggage. Would-be suicide terrorist Richard Reid tried to ignite a bomb in his shoe, so now everyone's footwear is screened for tampering. Earlier this month British authorities foiled a plan to blow up airliners with liquid explosives; as a result, toothpaste and cologne have become air-travel contraband. Of course the Israelis check for bombs and weapons too, but always with the understanding that things don't hijack planes, terrorists do -- and that the best way to detect terrorists is to focus on intercepting not bad things, but bad people. To a much greater degree than in the United States, security at El Al and Ben Gurion depends on intelligence and intuition -- what Rafi Ron, the former director of security at Ben Gurion, calls the human factor." Great they focus on the bad people. "Israeli airport security, much of it invisible to the untrained eye, begins before passengers even enter the terminal. Officials constantly monitor behavior, alert to clues that may hint at danger: bulky clothing, say, or a nervous manner." Okay. They monitor people coming into the airport. They must have a bank of security cameras around the terminals and a bunch of people sitting in a big room watching those cameras.....much like a casino. That's doable. "Profilers -- that's what they're called -- make a point of interviewing travelers, sometimes at length. They probe, as one profiling supervisor told CBS, for ``anything out of the ordinary, anything that does not fit." Their questions can seem odd or intrusive, especially if your only previous experience with an airport interrogation was being asked whether you packed your bags yourself." Now this is the big deal....first they have to find people who are intuitive.....not your average person. And Israelis tend to be more intuitive than Americans because of the environment within which they grow up. Now when a person is intuitive, they just don't get where someone is at by looking at them....they have to talk with them...engage them in conversation like it says above. It takes time..LOTS OF FRIGGING TIME. I know....I am highly intuitive. But that's not the real problem. So lets get down to the facts. Ben Gurion airport has 11 million international passengers and 500K domestic passengers. Do you have any idea how few passengers that is? Hatsfield Airport in Atlanta alone has 90 million passengers. Do you have any idea how long it would take to interview 90 million passengers? Atlanta is the US's biggest airport but there are many US airports with very large passenger totals. Hell, Seattle has more passengers than Ben Gurion. I've told you if we followed Israel's example we would have gidlock......but nooooooooo, you frigging know better. The feds know about the Israel system but they don't want to implement it just because......isn't that right, o wise one? It wouldn't be because they know it would cause gridlock and hurt this country economically? Of course not because inode says differently. You're a waste of good time. boston.com

To: i-node who wrote (542752)	1/11/2010 6:07:40 AM
From: Taro	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573901

"First, it's fast – there's almost no line. I have travelled in and out of Israel several times and can only 100% confirm above. Their lines are less than 5% the length of the security lines in SFO on a Friday - before 12/25 that is! I indulged in the dubious joy of experiencing that on Dec 12, 2009. Unless you have elite status with the airline, forget it!

To: i-node who wrote (542752)	1/11/2010 4:22:40 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573901

"But they will never look at you, at how you behave. They will never look into your eyes ." There is a reason for that. People with those kind of skills can't be hired for $10(at a guess) or less an hour. Those positions in the TSA are not skilled ones.