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To: Proud Deplorable who wrote (106913)	1/20/2010 2:25:50 AM
From: Joe Btfsplk	1 Recommendation Respond to of 116555

disadvantaged by location, poverty, bad education Explain Hong Kong or Singapore over the past half century, OK? Or maybe, get sober?

To: Proud Deplorable who wrote (106913)	1/20/2010 9:32:13 AM
From: Hawkmoon	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116555

yeah well it all comes down to greed and lifestyle. Does it now? You just stated in your previous post that it all depends upon the destruction of Israel. Only if Israel is eliminated will there be peace. So now it's poverty? Look at Haiti, disadvantaged by location, poverty, bad education and perpetual bad government yet most Americans have more than 2 cars I'm sorry.. From what I've seen, it's certainly not disadvantaged by location. It's a naturally beautiful place, and the Dominican Republic, while not rich, is far better off than Haiti. Bad education and perpetual bad government is NOT anyone's fault but that of the Haitian people. And while I'm perfectly willing to help them through this disaster, it's not a hand out, but a hand up. Btw, my father grew up in a VERY small town in the middle of the Ozarks. Dirt poor with 13 brothers and sisters living in a 2 bedroom house with no indoor plumbing. And this was an experienced shared BY MANY AMERICANS not too many years ago. And many of those people there are STILL poor relative to the rest of this country. I'm very lucky to have been his son. Every time I return there, I wonder what it would have been like had he not been motivated to "escape" his plight and better himself. Hawk

To: Proud Deplorable who wrote (106913)	1/20/2010 12:23:46 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116555

Botox, no system will work as long as people care more for themselves than for others. someone has to have power and that someone will always use it for selfish advantage. our founding fathers knew this and tried to set up a government that limited power. selfish people have since figured out how to game the system for personal gain. our failures are moral in nature, not government structure. no socialist government will work as long as people are morally depraved (failing to care about others equal to oneself). jesus predicted this selfishness would lead to more famines, more wars and ultimately the eventual destruction of "all flesh (except fo his supernatural 2nd coming intervention)." he was either very lucky or very good.