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To: stockman_scott who wrote (185626)	1/25/2010 8:25:10 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 361830

It's a VERY BAD health care bill and should not be passed -- and it will not be passed (or Obama and the Dems will pay a huge price in the fall election cycle). Sometimes you gotta walk away from a bad deal and re-group...there is tremendous anger and confusion in the country right now and the current Senate health care bill is TOXIC. Scott, the perfect health care bill does not exist. And frankly, you sound like someone running scared. Fear is a very bad motivator.

To: stockman_scott who wrote (185626)	1/25/2010 9:29:16 PM
From: Wharf Rat	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 361830

Worst thing in the world is to have wasted over a year and to come up with nothing. That will totally trash the party. After that, don't pass climate change. Then don't do anything else. WTF am I a Dem, if we don't pass anything? Walk away from this , and another 40 years will pass B4 this will happen again.

To: stockman_scott who wrote (185626)	1/25/2010 10:45:30 PM
From: Rock_nj	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 361830

Did you hear about Obama's new deficit reduction proposal? Freeze domestic spending but don't include defense spending in the freeze. Is this 1983 under Reagan, or 1990 under Bush I? I mean, what the hell is the difference between a D and a R when they have the same deficit reduction plans? Freeze spending that can help improve lives at home and increase spending on reckless foreign wars. Obama is losing me on this proposal. I'm all for cutting the deficit, but the pain has to be shared. Enough of the welfare for the military industrial complex. It just goes to show how much power they have in Washington. ----------------------------------------------- Under Obama's 2011 budget proposal, any discretionary spending unrelated to national security would be frozen at its current level, two senior administration officials said Monday night. The freeze would affect roughly a sixth of the federal budget. The president will propose to keep the freeze in place through 2013 so that, by the middle of the decade, that component of the budget will reach its lowest percentage of gross domestic product in 50 years. The savings from the three-year freeze is expected to amount to $250 billion over the next decade, compared with the baseline set in 2008. latimes.com Rock_nj: Wow! So under a Democratic President like Obama discretionary domestic spending unrelated to national security will be its lowest percentage of gross domestic product in 50 years. That really sucks! A lot of those 50 years included the Cold War when military spending was huge. I might just sit the next Presidential election out if this comes to pass. We will have had higher discretionary domestic spending under government bashers like Reagan than we did under Obama. No wonder half the country doesn't bother to vote. Obama is making another big mistake here that may unravel his coalition. I never thought he would bury his Presidency in such stupidity. Reinventing the Reagan mantra of starving domestic spending (and our needs) and feeding the military pig.