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To: Jeff Hayden who wrote (129609)	1/29/2010 1:50:54 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 543020

That's been the Republican's plan all along. Stop everything... Not really stop everything, but stop the Republican agenda. And why shouldn't it be that way. If the party in charge had some agenda that you strongly disliked would not you support the other party being "the party of no"? When Bush was president and the Republicans controlled congress, did you support all of their major agenda items, perhaps only wanting to tweak them a bit at the edges? I doubt it, and even if you did, that would just imply that your opposition wasn't as strong as it is here, certainly there would be a number of possible agendas where your response would be to oppose the whole movement and not just the specific details of the plan for the change. Also you exaggerate the extent the Republicans plan "all along" was just to say no. Early on some Republicans where looking to support the health care reform effort, while others presented different ideas about reform. Does the fact that the Democrats rejected these ideas make them "the party of no"?

To: Jeff Hayden who wrote (129609)	1/29/2010 3:05:37 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543020

It won't make a bit of difference if the Dems bend anymore to the Reps. What might help is forcing the filibusters at every turn. I'm not suggesting bend - I'm suggesting deals. You go to a few republicans who actually wanted health care reform (there were a few) and you make a deal. That is how our politics has worked for centuries. And yes you may have to bring one filibuster after another to get the republicans off their current course - but my gosh blaming republicans is just such a lame excuse for leadership.