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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (129662)1/29/2010 3:43:28 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 543515
 
If a majority of 41 works, you don't think dems will use it next time they have a "majority" of less than 50? I'll bet republicans figure out a way around it.........

Yeah, they'll use reconciliation, which the Democrats are loath to do. They know that they'll be a minority again, and they are for minority rights. Just not minority obstructionism on everything.

And they are not for a minority that mostly wants to dismantle government.



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (129662)1/29/2010 3:43:35 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 543515
 
It might be too late to deal with a republican (think Olympia who likely could win no matter what she did) but it sure isn't too late to twink the bill to make it acceptable and then let republicans filibuster.

We're well past that point, Steve. You either never knew or forgot that the basic bill was written, as Obama said today, to mirror the op ed piece Bob Dole, Howard Baker, and Tom Daschle wrote for The Washington Post at the outset. Centrists all. Contained more than a few Rep ideas. More were added as it went along. Most importantly, single payer was definitively taken off the table; not much fight was offered when the public option was disappeared; nor was even a medicare to 55 option able to survive.

Working with Reps didn't work. While this thing today was spectacular political theater as was the SOTU, the hard, disturbing reality is the Reps are simply locked into power politics not policy politics.