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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (107911)2/4/2010 9:19:28 PM
From: pogohere3 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555
 
"We've encouraged, despite our obvious past missteps and diversions, democratization of dozens of countries who now have government more accountable than at any previous time in history to the needs of their people."

Even if true, it's not affordable. Wake up and smell the ink on the freshly printed money (see FHA and Freddy bailout). If Woodrow Wilson can do that, so can you. (:>)



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (107911)2/4/2010 9:41:04 PM
From: Broken_Clock1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
Well Hawk, this should help keep the military budget under control. Just eliminate all dissent.

news.antiwar.com

Blair: US Govt Can Kill Citizens Overseas as Part of ‘Defined Policy’
Director of National Intelligence Tells Congress Americans Can Be Killed Overseas
by Jason Ditz, February 03, 2010

In testimony before the House Intelligence Committee today, National Intelligence Director Dennis Blair told representatives that American citizens can be assassinated by the US government when they are oveseas.

Blair said the comments were intended to “reassure” Americans that there was a “set of defined policy and legal procedures” in place and that such assassinations are always carried out by the book.

Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R – MI) inquired about the procedures involved, asking what the legal framework was under which Americans could be killed by the intelligence community.

Blair insisted that under no circumstances would Americans be assassinated overseas for criticizing the government, adding “we don’t target people for free speech.” Rather they are subject to assassination when the government decides they are a threat and when they “get specific permission.” Exactly who was giving that permission was unclear.

The question has been increasingly important as the Obama Administration attempts to help the Yemeni government assassinate Anwar al-Awlaki, a US-born cleric who is not accused of any crimes by the US government. The administration maintains that secret evidence exists linking Awlaki to terrorism.

There seems to be a chilling lack of oversight in the procedure behind these killings, however, Blair’s assurances against politically motivated assassinations aside. The US has killed Americans in overseas attacks before, but only as “collateral damage.” It has never admitted to explicitly assassinating an American citizen before, though it seems that the policy is in place and such killings are only a matter of time.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (107911)2/4/2010 11:34:34 PM
From: NOW3 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555
 
i see: so we went into Iraq to spread democracy...
How in the world did i think it was to prevent WMD's?



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (107911)2/5/2010 2:06:54 PM
From: Kayaker3 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
<< ....However, I guess if you're in favor of totalitarianism, or are one of the "power elite" that seeks to dictate and control masses of humanity for your own Empire building agenda, I could see why you'd be so adverse to unleashing DEMOCRACY around the world.

Never have understood why you people are so hell-bent upon preventing democratic, and accountable, governments for the people of this planet.
>>

Kick out the dictators and support democracy! Uh huh.

....The possibility of Allende winning Chile's 1970 election was deemed a disaster by a US government who wanted to protect US business interests and prevent any spread of communism during the Cold War.[34] In September 1970, President Nixon informed the CIA that an Allende government in Chile would not be acceptable and authorized $10 million to stop Allende from coming to power or unseat him[35]. The CIA's plans to impede Allende's investiture as President of Chile were known as "Track I" and "Track II"; Track I sought to prevent Allende from assuming power via so-called "parliamentary trickery", while under the Track II initiative, the CIA tried to convince key Chilean military officers to carry out a coup....

....After General Pinochet assumed power, United States Secretary of State Henry Kissinger told President Richard Nixon that the U.S. "didn't do it," but "we helped them...created the conditions as great as possible." (referring to the coup itself)[43]. Recent documents declassified under the Clinton administration's Chile Declassification Project show that the United States government and the CIA sought the overthrow of Allende in 1970 immediately before he took office....

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