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To: Certafied who wrote (4013)11/4/1997 7:01:00 PM
From: Certafied  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7841
 
The following article appeared on the Motley Fool message board:

Subject: Speech Recognition Investment
Date: Tue, Nov 4, 1997 11:26 EST

Thought you would be interested in this AOL News clip.

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Subj: Seagate Increases its Investment in Speech Recognition Leader Dragon Systems
Date: 97-11-04 11:06:46 EST
From: AOL News

SCOTTS VALLEY, Calif., Nov. 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Seagate Technology, Inc.
(NYSE: SEG) today announced that it has increased its equity position in Dragon Systems, Incorporated, a Newton, Massachusetts-based worldwide leading developer of advanced speech recognition technology and market leader in speech recognition products for personal computer/workstation platforms. The additional investment brings Seagate's ownership in Dragon Systems to approximately 35%.

Dragon Systems, Inc., is a leading worldwide supplier of speech and language technology, including award-winning speech recognition software. Dragon's goal is to "humanize" the interface between people and machines by expanding the use of speech, which is the most natural and efficient way for people to ommunicate. The speech capabilities available from Dragon Systems include continuous and discrete dictation systems, voice command systems, text-to-speech systems, customized telephony solutions, and developer tools which enable users to build interactive dialogues or custom vocabularies that do not need to be retrained.

"Seagate views speech recognition as a key enabling technology that provides a natural user interface to computer systems," said Al Shugart, Seagate chairman and CEO. "Our investment in Dragon Systems represents a continued effort to make computers work more like people, rather than the other way around. The world's currency is information, and people want access to that information to be faster and easier. Speech recognition technology provides multiple benefits to users by providing a more natural human interface for existing applications while also opening up vast markets and applications that are not easily accessible with the more traditional interface devices such as a keyboard or mouse."

Dragon Systems, Inc., the Natural Speech Company, is a worldwide leader in PC speech recognition. Dragon develops and markets high-performance, cost-effective speech and language technology tools that, in multiple world languages (including American English, British English, French, German, Italian, Spanish and Swedish), enable users to create any text, issue commands, and enter and access data simply by speaking. The company also licenses its technology worldwide through developers, distributors, resellers, OEMs (Original Equipment Manufacturers) and ISVs (Integrated Software Vendors). Dragon Systems ports its technology across multiple operating systems and hardware platforms from hand-held devices and personal computers to workstations, and is pursuing leading-edge research and development projects for computer and telecommunications applications.

Founded in 1982, Dragon Systems is headquartered in Newton, Massachusetts; its Dragon Systems UK Ltd. subsidiary, which is focused on speech recognition for telephony and high-noise environments, is based in Cheltenham, England; Dragon Systems GmbH is located in Munich, Germany. Dragon Systems can be found
on the world wide web: www.naturalspeech.com or dragonsys.com.

Seagate Technology, Inc. (NYSE: SEG) is a leading provider of technology and products enabling people to store, access, and manage information. The Company is committed to providing best-in-class products to help people get their information when, where and how they want it. Seagate is the world's largest manufacturer of disc drives, magnetic discs and read-write heads, a market leader in tape drives, and a leading developer of software for information availability, access and analysis. With nearly $9 billion in revenues for its 1997 fiscal year, Seagate can be found around the globe and on the World Wide Web at seagate.com.

NOTE: Dragon Systems is a registered trademark of Dragon Systems, Inc. NaturallySpeaking, and The Natural Speech Company are trademarks of Dragon Systems. All other trademarks are the property of their respective holders.

SOURCE Seagate Technology, Inc.
End Article

remember KURZWEIL.
The debacle in speech recognition.



To: Certafied who wrote (4013)11/6/1997 9:04:00 PM
From: Certafied  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7841
 
This is an article that was posted in the Fool on AOL:

SCOTTS VALLEY, Calif., Nov. 6 /PRNewswire/ -- Seagate Technology, Inc.
(NYSE: SEG) announced today that it has settled all disputes with Amstrad PLC.
As a result of the settlement, the parties have withdrawn all appeals and ended all litigation between them. The settlement will result in
approximately a $22 million reduction against the $153 million charge recorded in the Company's fourth quarter 1997 financial results. This reduction in the settlement cost will be reflected in the Company's results for the quarter ending Jan 3,1998.

So Profit and Loss Statement ending 1-3-97 will definitely be showing a plus of $22 Million for the above settelment...a positive news....
Notice the $153m was already accounted in quarter ended June 1997. so the $22M is a surplus....We may have the same thing happening for the "currency hedge"...I mean ending up positive in current quarter....
Good Luck!

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One good thing doesn't necessarily lead to another. There doesn't seem to be any brightness on the foreign currency hedge based on current available information.

Usually after settlements the reductions aren't reduced as expected. Remember attorney's have to make their money to.

Don't get overly positive and irrationally exuberant on minor news.



To: Certafied who wrote (4013)11/9/1997 10:16:00 PM
From: Winston Chang  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 7841
 
>The following was stated and hopefully some confusion and
>misunderstanding can be cleared. It was stated that:
>" My feeling is that SEG probably had offseting option position and
>decided to write off the losing position first (maybe they're
>required to do so...). So, they'll realize the profit of the
>opposite position in the future."
>
> If I understand this statement correctly then it is grossly
> incorrect, for the following reason:
>
> Segate (SEG) can not write off losing positions without
>taking into consideration gain positions. They are required to
>account for these in the aggregate. If there are any gain
>positions they must be netted against the loss positions.
>Refer to Financial Accounting Standard 115 (Accounting
>for Certain Investments in Debt and Equity Securities).
>The hedging contracts were probably classified as "trading
>securities" so they are accounted for as follows:
>
> "Debt and equity securities that are bought and held
>principally for the purpose of selling them in the near
>term are classified as trading securities and reported at fair
>value, with unrealized gains and losses included in earnings."
>
> If you are hoping that there are unrealized gains
>around the corner from not reporting them in the last
>quarter and only reporting the unrealized losses, I am sorry
>to say that there are no unrealized deferred gains which will
>materialize in the next quarter due to trading activity in
>the last quarter.
>
> The net effect of the gains and losses on unrealized
>transactions has been recorded in the last quarter. The
>only chance of a gain in a subsequent quarter is if (i) the
>market turns around before the hedges are covered, or (ii)
>Segate continues to venture in hedging and gets extremely
>lucky at it. Based on what is happening in Asia, I would
>think Segate would be lucky if the losses are not
>exacerbated, least of all to expect a gain. These losses will
>probably become realized.
>
> Besides FAS 115, FAS 119 (Disclosure about Derivative
>Financial Instruments and Fair Value of Financial Instruments)
>determines how the foreign currency hedges are reported.
>
> To say the least Segate should stick to manufacturing disk
>drives and not attempt to become global investors in
>financial derivatives. They have shined in the DD arena
>and hopefully will shine again one day.
>
> This mess is not over it will take a few quarters to get
>out of it.
>
> Of Course, IMHO

With all due respect, your position is incorrect. SFAS No. 115 does
not apply to currency hedges; it applies only to debt and non-marketable equity securities. SFAS No. 119 deals with disclosure, not reporting. The relevant standard is SFAS No. 52, "Foreign Currency Translation."

Under SFAS No. 52, if the foreign exchange contracts are true hedges (as defined), gains and losses are not reported in the income statement but as a separate component of stockholders' equity, i.e. "Cumulative translation adjustment." If they are not true hedges, then transaction losses and gains flow through the P&L.

The valuation of the losses depends on whether the contracts are for speculation or not. This affects whether the instruments are measured at the differences in the spot rates or the forward rates.

The facts in Seagate's situation are on page 8 of the Annual Report,
in the MD&A. Seagate has certain hedges which are not true hedges for SFAS No. 52 purposes. (Under SFAS No. 52, a company cannot hedge generalized "cash flows," but only specific transactions.) Seagate has unrealized losses on these hedges, which were recognized in the P&L for the quarter ending September 30, 1997. For periods after this date, the related cash flows will result in higher income than would otherwise have occurred.

It's actually odd, because that income will probably flow into income from operations, while the current period loss will likely be in other expense.

An example should help. Let's say we expect to pay out 3 million ringgits in 6 months, for payroll, equipment, etc. Let's also say these are not hedges under SFAS No. 52. When we make the contract today, 3 million ringgits is worth $1 million. So we agree to buy 3 million ringgits from Goldman Sachs in six months, for a million dollars, payable in six months. Four months later, 3 million ringgits is worth only $750,000. So we have to recognize a $250,000 unrealized loss at the four-month date. At the end of the contract two months later, we get the ringgits from Goldman, and pay them out to our Malaysian suppliers and employees. If the exchange rate doesn't move any more, the ringgits are translated so that we have a $750,000 cost of sales entry instead of $1,000,000.

Of course, the total expense is still $1,000,000, but $250,000 is recognized in the first period as "other expense" and $750,000 is recognized in the second period as "cost of sales". If no currency fluctuation had occurred, we would have seen a $1,000,000 "cost of sales" expense in the second period, and no surprise loss in the first period. This is just a book loss; it means very little in reality. In fact, the gross and operating margin numbers will probably look better than they should this quarter because of this "income statement geography" effect.

As you can see, these hedges are not wild speculation. They are used to lock in the $1,000,000 expected cost. Without the hedge, Seagate would have had a windfall. But a priori it could have had an unexpected loss if the U.S. dollar suddenly had devalued. According to the 10-K, Seagate has stopped hedging not because of the losses, but because of "volatility." Whether these means contracts are too expensive to obtain (due to high option volatility premiums) or whether Seagate is actively betting on further declines is unclear, but probably the former.

At any rate, this should clarify the accounting taking place here.

Regards,
Winston