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To: Lane3 who wrote (134168)	3/22/2010 11:45:21 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542951

<<< How long can the President wait before he comes clean with the American people and explains how high taxes needs to rise to pay for his vision of government? >>> Just for the record, did the ever fair minded Greg Mankiw ask George W. Bush how he was going to pay for two wars? As a follow up: How much will the hcr bill cost? And, how much will the two wars cost?

To: Lane3 who wrote (134168)	3/22/2010 11:48:43 AM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542951

Here is the question I have been wondering about: How long can the President wait before he comes clean with the American people and explains how high taxes needs to rise to pay for his vision of government? 2018?? <GG>

To: Lane3 who wrote (134168)	3/22/2010 2:16:15 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 542951

I like to think of the big tradeoff as being between community and liberty. From this perspective, the health reform bill offers more community (all Americans get health insurance, regulated by a centralized authority) and less liberty (insurance mandates, higher taxes). Once again, regardless of whether you are more communitarian or libertarian, a reasonable person should be able to understand the opposite vantagepoint. Guess it depends on your perspective. Less liberty: 1. Someone who doesn't want insurance will be "forced" to get it or pay a fine (doesn't auto insurance work like this in most if not all states?) 2. Insurance companies will be "forced" to cover people with pre-existing conditions, and they will be "coerced" into not dropping people who get sick. [However, it isn't clear to me that their rates will be capped--the giant gift to insurance companies.] More liberty: 1. People who have developed an illness or who have a dependent child who is sick won't be forced to stay in a particular job in order to get or remain insured. 2. Or healthy people who fear loss of insurance if they move to another company will be free from that fear, and have more mobility. I welcome additions to brief list, in either the "less" or "more" direction.