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To: Dale Baker who wrote (134495)	3/23/2010 10:14:51 PM
From: KyrosL	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542946

Counting all taxes, Europeans pay around 10% of GDP more in taxes than Americans. For that they basically get free health care, largely free education through the university and better working and retirement conditions. But most European countries also have much lower defense costs and tort burdens compared to us. On the minus side European government bureaucracy is higher.

To: Dale Baker who wrote (134495)	3/23/2010 10:16:17 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542946

he will complain a bit and pay it. Nothing weird about that. There is a big difference between having the choice yourself, and having it forced on you. And if a person is paying $12k out of pocket for his own insurance, either he has some pre-existing condition that's bad enough to raise costs but not to get him dropped, or its an issue of government requirements pushing up his costs, or its gold plated insurance that many making $60k or less wouldn't chose to pay.