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To: Stormin Norman who wrote (21307)	3/24/2010 2:47:29 AM
From: Proud Deplorable	6 Recommendations Respond to of 50010

Guess what fool? I'm Jewish and YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT! and I don't like your handle, Your God is an asshole if that's what you think he/shes like but your attempt at quoting Revelation proves you know absolutely nothing about the Bible anyway.

To: Stormin Norman who wrote (21307)	3/24/2010 10:34:19 AM
From: SARMAN	4 Recommendations Respond to of 50010

ROFLMAO. Do you think when the rapture comes, the murderous Zionists are going to let you in? You are dilution. I do not see you complaining about the G-d chosen ones killing Palestinians and stealing their land. If the Messiah is coming any time soon, I doubt he would be coming to people immersed with innocent blood and on stolen land. Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel, not because Netanyahu says so but because Israel as a nation says so. And their God agrees fully. Wrong. Three Strong Oaths The true Jewish position on Zionism and the state called Israel is found in the Scriptures in the Talmud and in the oral traditions transmitted to us by our parents and teachers. At the outset of the Jews' exile to Babylonia, the Prophet Jeremiah, in chapter 29 of his book proclaimed G-d's message to all the exiled…Verse seven reads, "Seek out the welfare of the city to which I have exiled you and pray for it to the Almighty, for through its welfare will you have welfare." This has been a cornerstone of Jewish "foreign policy" how to behave in the lands of the nations throughout our ensuing exiles till this very day. There Jeremiah adds in the name of G-d (verses 8 and 9), "Do not let your false prophets among you and your sorcerers seduce you, do not head your dreamers which you cause them to dream. For they speak falsely to you in My name. I did not send them." This too has applied to all the would-be misleaders of Jewry whether they presented themselves as prophets or as sorcerers or as dreamers of national aspirations. King Solomon in Song of Songs thrice adjured the "daughters of Jerusalem" not to arouse or bestir the love until it is ready." The Talmud explains That we have been foresworn, by three strong oaths, not to ascend to the Holy Land as a group using force, not to rebel against the governments of countries in which we live, and not by our sins, to prolong the coming of moshiach; as is written in Tractate Kesubos 111a . Throughout the seventy years of the Babylonian exile, throughout the 200 years of the Hellenic exile and throughout the 1917 since the destruction of G-d's Holy House, we have steadfastly maintained our loyalty to G-d and have not transgressed His oaths. And we have prayed for the welfare of the cities and the countries of our host nations that did not oppress us, and in their welfare we indeed always found ours. Whoever violates Jeremiah's principles or Solomon's oaths immediately imperils the welfare of Jews locally and elsewhere in the world. jewsagainstzionism.com Furthermore The Jewish people, from its inception, has been unique by its identity as a religious entity. Through the centuries its religious character had been a premise agreed upon by Jews and non-Jews alike. Our faith demands as the fundamental condition for recognition as a Jew, belief and adherence to the word of G-d, as was revealed to our forefathers on Mount Sinai. This is in itself, according to the tenets of the Jewish religion, sufficient to fulfill the definition of a Jew. Our religious and traditional history bears no aspect of racism. Hence, one of non-Jewish origin is capable of being proselytized and attaining the same status as a born Jew. Conversely, one of Jewish birth who does not recognize his being bound to the Jewish Torah, is by Jewish law a heretic, and therefore forfeits his spiritual birthrights as a Jew. The purpose of the Jew is to bear witness to the existence of G-d, through his adherence to the Torah. The Al-mighty granted the Jews the land of Israel as the particular setting which would serve as the most conducive atmosphere to their performance of their duties to G-d. The Jews in ancient times were banished from the land of Israel because they had failed to fulfill their obligations to the Al-mighty. Every Jew acknowledges this in his prayers (Umipnei Chatoeinu Golinu Meiartzeinu). They accepted the penalty of exile and were at that time expressed sworn by the Al-mighty not to accelerate their redemption on their own, and especially not to rebel against the nations under whose rule they were found. To the contrary, every Jew is commanded to pray for the peace and well being of the government of which he is the subject. Through all the years of exile, pious Jews as individuals were attracted to reside in the Holy Land because of its innate holy character and the opportunity it offered for the observance of various precepts bound in the land. Jews as a whole continue to pray that the Al-mighty return his Divine presence to the Land of Israel, by the coming of the Messiah, who will build His Temple, from whence will emanate Divine Wisdom and ultimate spiritual fulfillment of the entire human race. Through the many years that Jews resided in the Holy Land for this purpose, they enjoyed tranquil and cordial relations with the non-Jewish population there. jewsagainstzionism.com Stormin, Israel as it stands, is nothing but a false hope for a false Messiah.

To: Stormin Norman who wrote (21307)	3/24/2010 1:04:13 PM
From: SARMAN	1 Recommendation Respond to of 50010

Stormin, I keep rereading your post and finding more flaws in your argument. The Bible is clear that we should pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Why...... to maintain peace in the world. No peace in Jerusalem-no peace in the world. As Israel goes so goes the world. If true, the whole world should be ashes by now. Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel, not because Netanyahu says so but because Israel as a nation says so. Simply not true. If true, the Chosen ones shouldn't steal it, it would have been given to them. Yet the Chosen one kill and steal to make it their capitol. And their God agrees fully. I already proved it wrong in a previous post. We must bless Israel the nation, Somehow that nation is plotting our destruction, doesn't make any sense. According to Revelation, Israel is the center of the world and will be more and more as the end of the age nears. Kind of like world headlines would indicate. Notice how much Israel shows up. Again, if true, Israel would be at peace. G-d is not only mad at them G-d is livid at them. They will not see a day of peace. A tiny tiny speck of a nation stuck in an area of a bunch of nations that absolutely hate them. Great, blame the world for the Zionists' stupidity. They decided to move to a bad neighborhood. Israel disappeared off the face of the earth for nearly two thousand years That was G-d' anger and punishment for not fulfilling his will. and reappeared out of nowhere in 1948. How is that? That is defying G-d's will and more G-d's anger will descend upon them. How is it that Israel even exists? It is not because of American aid Really? Please contact your congressman and tell him/her to stop the aid to Israel. We give more aid to Arab nations. I bet you pulled this out of thin air, right? Israel exists because it is God who defends Israel. Read above. G-d is forgiving and gives many chances, yet the Chosen ones defy him every chance they get. May G-d have mercy on them.

To: Stormin Norman who wrote (21307)	3/24/2010 2:55:45 PM
From: Broken_Clock	2 Recommendations Respond to of 50010

"We must bless Israel the nation" It depends on what you mean by "bless", doesn't it?