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To: Elroy who wrote (357558)4/4/2010 1:42:36 PM
From: Alan Smithee3 Recommendations  Respond to of 793903
 
So how did women in the US get the right to vote?

The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

Even the Declaration of Independence is a creation of the US government at the time, no?

No. It was a declaration by members of the Continental Congress that declared that the 13 colonies were no longer a part of the British Empire but were in fact independent states. There was no United States of America in 1776. In 1777 the former colonies adopted Articles of Confederation that formed a loose confederation of the then-independent states.



To: Elroy who wrote (357558)4/4/2010 3:05:34 PM
From: LindyBill6 Recommendations  Respond to of 793903
 
Governments are formed from people. The people come first. Government is a "service that protects property." That's a buyable service. They always start out at the tribal level with a leader who enforces the rules the tribe wants. "Politics" is the Greek word in Philosophy for how we deal with each other.

The Declaration of Independence was written as the first statement of the Government formed from it. A group got together to start a new Government and wanted a statement of principles. It was a totally new form of Government based on the concept that you didn't need a king.



To: Elroy who wrote (357558)4/4/2010 6:28:36 PM
From: KLP11 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793903
 
Elroy, I'm confused about your questions. You tell us you have a highpaying job off shore and live in the Philippines and are a US Citizen.

Where did you go to school? Maybe I should ask in what country??

Our kids don't get much American History in their 12 years of school, I'll grant you. I'll also grant you that most of the kids who are homeschooled, at least in WA State know more American History than the public school kids.

Now, our kids get American History for a half a year in the 5th grade, a "smattering" in the 8th grade when they study civics, and a semimester in the 11th grade in HS.

NOT Nearly enough for sure!! BUT.....

How is it possible for you not to know some of the basics about how America is founded, and at least a glancing knowledge of what the Declaration of Independence says, what the Bill of Rights says and why, and of course at least a tiny bit about the most important document the US has....

The Constitution of the United States



To: Elroy who wrote (357558)4/4/2010 6:33:41 PM
From: DMaA1 Recommendation  Respond to of 793903
 
Right to vote for what? For representation in the government.

Logic from the above sentence would seem to argue that women always had the right to vote.

Logic, if you chose to pursue it, would tell you there is nothing to vote for UNTIL there is a government.