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To: KLP who wrote (357600)	4/4/2010 10:27:59 PM
From: Elroy	2 Recommendations Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 793908

You tell us you have a highpaying job off shore and live in the Philippines and are a US Citizen. Almost. I'm a US citizen living in the Philippines (since 11/08). I have no job at the moment. That's why I think I probably qualify for food stamps, although I'm not sure where to get one. Food is pretty cheap here, so it's not that big of a deal. I'm confused about your questions. Let me explain the thinking in my previous questions, since perhaps it wasn't clear. The main topic is how do people get "human rights"? From where do they come? Every legal right that I can think of is codified in law directly or interpretation of law (court decisions). Who makes laws - the Congress & Executive branches. Who interprets law - the Supreme Court. What is government - the Congress, Executive and Supreme Court. So one example of a right created by the government and given to the people of the US is a woman's right to vote. In the early years of the US women did not have the right to vote. In the early 1900s, the government amended the law such that women did have the right to vote. Q: How did women get the get the right to vote? A: The government at the time amended the law such that women have the right to vote. That's what leads me to conclude that rights are bestowed on individuals by governments. Someone pointed out that the form this takes is for the government to forbid itself from taking away the right in question. Fine. But the amendment which forbids the government from taking away the right in question is a creation of the elected leadership (government), it's not a creation of a popular vote (the people). LB points out that the government is the people, this is not always true. The UAE government is not elected, it's a so called royal family. UAE citizens do not have the right to vote for their leadership, but they do have the right to a free education and free health care. Who gives them those two rights - the unelected UAE government. Someone else points out that the Bill of Rights is a creation of the Continental Congress. And it's been a long time since high school so I don't exactly recall the details, but that sounds to me like an elected governmental organization. What did they do - decide which rights go in (10 of them) and which rights didn't make the cut (slavery). In the end the Continental Congress, the quasi governmental organization of the day, selected the ten rights in the Bill of Rights and voted 'yea', and the rights of the people were codified in the law by the then government. As for education, it was all done in California. Undergrad at UC Berkeley. Go Bears!