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To: RetiredNow who wrote (559721)	4/9/2010 9:48:49 AM
From: RetiredNow	Respond to of 1577124

"Do the Republicans become tea partiers, do tea partiers become Republicans? How does this evolve?" CNN's Ali Velshi asked Bachmann on CNN's Newsroom Thursday. "It's really merging into one single, solitary unit," Bachmann replied. "They have unified. A number of Tea Party groups from around the country are coming together, unifying under the umbrella of economic, fiscal conservatism because Americans, quite simply, feel like they're taxed enough already." politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com

To: RetiredNow who wrote (559721)	4/9/2010 10:37:00 AM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577124

Energy independence? You don’t want independence; you just want more, like everyone else. If you look at a satellite view, you see a country lit up like it is on fire. If you walk into most homes you can hear the furnace fire up, the lights are on, the stove, refrigerator etc is humming away; computers, game sets, TVs, and stereos are blaring at you. That is the standard and in each case people are regularly increasing the capacity to use more energy. If there were some goal for a sustainable society it would be one thing but there isn’t. The natural load bearing carrying capacity was passed centuries ago. If you want to talk about delusions fine but start by defining what exists and what is realistically achievable, and why achieving any such thing is a worthy endeavor. Maybe you could start by questioning your own assumptions and expanding those horizons. Independence is one of those archaic words that no longer have any application. We are an interdependent global society and will continute to be so for the duration.

To: RetiredNow who wrote (559721)	4/9/2010 2:54:40 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	2 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1577124

Mindmeld, > Sure, let's drill everywhere, but let's not delude ourselves into thinking that there's enough oil in the US to get us to independence. You do not have a consistent position. You call carbon emissions a "bad thing" due the fact that you defend a carbon tax in that context. Yet you also want to "drill everywhere." I'm all for drilling everywhere, taxing the heck out of it, and using the proceeds for alternative energy research. That might not be much different from your position. But you are allied with people who hate oil, hate coal, and believe in fairy tales powered by solar and wind. That's what's motivating their advocacy of a "carbon tax." Nancy Pelosi said it herself ... twice, "I'm trying to save the planet." Tenchusatsu