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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (362348)5/2/2010 4:31:55 PM
From: skinowski  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793841
 
26 years ago, when first considering this CO2 "problem", I said to ...... not only was oil not running out, it was obviously going to get so cheap that there would be no return on our research.

That was a great call. What do you think about today's situation? Is it going to stay cheap and get cheaper? Thx.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (362348)5/2/2010 5:38:26 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793841
 

Lindy, hydroelectricity shouldn't be any cheaper than carbon or nuclear energy. Their prices should all be almost the same and "what the market will bear".


Energy has transportation costs, so it shouldn't cost the same at every location, and it doesn't.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (362348)5/2/2010 6:34:34 PM
From: LindyBill  Respond to of 793841
 
hydroelectricity shouldn't be any cheaper

It's always the cheapest because it's gravity powered. Water is just the medium for gravity. Remember, electricity is "use it or lose it." You can't store it in bulk.

The first Hydro also proved the value of Nikola Tesla's patents. Niagara Falls.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (362348)5/2/2010 9:44:25 PM
From: ig  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793841
 
Hey MQ: I saw this comment somewhere:

"Here is a simple fix [for the Gulf oil spill]: make a concrete dome, with a line coming out the top, hooked to a pump at the surface, drop the dome on top of the pipe, what is outside the dome is crimped shut, what is inside the dome is pumped out on a continuous basis and processed, this will stop the leakage and buy critical time to fix this problem, the dome can be poured and set in a couple of days and can be dropped by crane."

Too easy?



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (362348)5/3/2010 12:14:27 AM
From: pheilman_1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793841
 
<Google has the bulk of their equipment in the Northwest, getting those cheap hydro rates. >

Another key reason for having their machine rooms along the Columbia river is for cooling. Google packs their machines in rather densely and needs cold water for cooling. Worked for early nuclear plants, should be able to chill a few Pentiums.