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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84275)5/20/2010 8:38:39 AM
From: TideGlider2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224729
 
How's that unemployment number going Kenneth?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84275)5/20/2010 8:38:57 AM
From: Sedohr Nod4 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224729
 
Yep....and a very limited power resource option.....ever stop to wonder how many endangered species have been slaughtered out existence by those heartless damn dam builders?....Just breaks my heart, have you no compassion?

Do you want to be the first to try out a battery operated airplane?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84275)5/20/2010 8:40:47 AM
From: JakeStraw2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224729
 
Jobless claims rise 25,000 last week to 471,000

Jobless claims unexpectedly rise by largest amount in 3 months as labor market struggles

finance.yahoo.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84275)5/20/2010 9:10:59 AM
From: HPilot2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224729
 
Hydro power is an example of clean energy.

If you call fish kills clean then it is.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84275)5/20/2010 9:15:37 AM
From: HPilot2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224729
 
Cleanest form of energy is probably Nuclear. Yet it is not considered clean energy because of the waste. But the waste is stored in nice clean containers and never allowed to break into the environment.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84275)5/20/2010 10:56:17 AM
From: Ann Corrigan4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224729
 
All those alternate energy sources are fine, but all of them combined would meet about 2% of our energy needs. What about the rest?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84275)5/20/2010 11:07:58 AM
From: lorne2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224729
 
ken...holy crap...is even NYT throwing the poor stupid socialist community organizer under the bus...LOL I mean reporting something that could tarnish hussein obama's halo!

Scientists accuse Obama over oil spill

Expert claims NOAA is guilty of a 'catastrophic failure'
By Justin Gillis
The New York Times
msnbc.msn.com

Tensions between the Obama administration and the scientific community over the gulf oil spill are escalating, with prominent oceanographers accusing the government of failing to conduct an adequate scientific analysis of the damage and of allowing BP to obscure the spill’s true scope.

The scientists assert that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and other agencies have been slow to investigate the magnitude of the spill and the damage it is causing in the deep ocean.

They are especially concerned about getting a better handle on problems that may be occurring from large plumes of oil droplets that appear to be spreading beneath the ocean surface.

The scientists point out that in the month since the Deepwater Horizon oil rig exploded, the government has failed to make public a single test result on water from the deep ocean.

And the scientists say the administration has been too reluctant to demand an accurate analysis of how many gallons of oil are flowing into the sea from the gushing oil well.

“It seems baffling that we don’t know how much oil is being spilled,” Sylvia Earle, a famed oceanographer, said Wednesday on Capitol Hill. “It seems baffling that we don’t know where the oil is in the water column.”

'Early stages'
The administration acknowledges that its scientific resources are stretched by the disaster, but contends that it is moving to get better information, including a more complete picture of the underwater plumes.

“We’re in the early stages of doing that, and we do not have a comprehensive understanding as of yet of where that oil is,” Jane Lubchenco, the NOAA administrator, told Congress on Wednesday. “But we are devoting all possible resources to understanding where the oil is and what its impact might be.”

The administration has mounted a huge response to the spill, deploying 1,105 vessels to try to skim oil, burn it and block it from shorelines.

As part of the effort, the federal government and the Gulf Coast states have begun an extensive effort to catalog any environmental damage to the coast.

The Environmental Protection Agency is releasing results from water sampling near shore. In most places, save for parts of Louisiana, the contamination appears modest so far.

The big scientific question now is what is happening in deeper water. While it is clear that water samples have been taken, the results have not been made public.

Lisa P. Jackson, administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, told Congress on Wednesday that she was pressing for the release of additional test results, including some samples taken by boats under contract to BP.

Deep ocean
While the total number of boats involved in the response is high, relatively few are involved in scientific assessment of the deep ocean.

Of the 19 research vessels owned by NOAA, 5 are in the Gulf of Mexico and available for work on the spill, Dr. Lubchenco said, counting a newly commissioned boat.

The flagship of the NOAA fleet, the research vessel Ronald H. Brown, was off the coast of Africa when the spill occurred on April 20, and according to NOAA tracking logs, it was not redirected until about May 11, three weeks after the disaster began. It is sailing toward the gulf.

At least one vessel under contract to BP has collected samples from deep water, and so have a handful of university ships. NOAA is dropping instruments into the sea that should help give a better picture of conditions.

On May 6, NOAA called attention to its role in financing the work of a small research ship called the Pelican, owned by a university consortium in Louisiana.

But when scientists aboard that vessel reported over the weekend that they had discovered large plumes undersea that appeared to be made of oil droplets, NOAA criticized the results as premature and requiring further analysis.

Rick Steiner, a marine biologist and a veteran of the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster, assailed NOAA in an interview, declaring that it had been derelict in analyzing conditions beneath the sea.

Mr. Steiner said the likelihood of extensive undersea plumes of oil droplets should have been anticipated from the moment the spill began, given that such an effect from deepwater blowouts had been predicted in the scientific literature for more than a decade, and confirmed in a test off the coast of Norway.

An extensive sampling program to map and characterize those plumes should have been put in place from the first days of the spill, he said.

“A vast ecosystem is being exposed to contaminants right now, and nobody’s watching it,” Mr. Steiner said. “That seems to me like a catastrophic failure on the part of NOAA.”

Mr. Steiner, long critical of offshore drilling, has fought past battles involving NOAA, including one in which he was stripped of a small university grant financed by the agency.

He later resigned from the University of Alaska at Anchorage and now consults worldwide on oil-spill prevention and response.

'Hide the body'
Oceanographers have also criticized the Obama administration over its reluctance to force BP, the oil company responsible for the spill, to permit an accurate calculation of the flow rate from the undersea well.

The company has refused to permit scientists to send equipment to the ocean floor that would establish the rate with high accuracy.

Ian MacDonald of Florida State University, an oceanographer who was among the first to question the official estimate of 210,000 gallons a day, said he had come to the conclusion that the oil company was bent on obstructing any accurate calculation. “They want to hide the body,” he said.

Andrew Gowers, a spokesman for BP, said this was not correct.

Given the complex operations going on at the sea floor to try to stop the flow, “introducing more equipment into the immediate vicinity would represent an unacceptable risk,” he said.

Thad W. Allen, the Coast Guard admiral in charge of the response to the spill, said Wednesday evening that the government had decided to try to put equipment on the ocean floor to take accurate measurements.

A technical team is at work devising a method, he said. “We are shoving pizzas under the door, and they are not coming out until they give us the answer,” he said.

Scientists have long theorized that a shallow spill and a spill in the deep ocean — this one is a mile down — would behave quite differently.

A 2003 report by the National Research Council predicted that the oil could break into fine droplets, forming plumes of oil mixed with water that would not quickly rise to the surface.

That prediction appeared to be confirmed Saturday when the researchers aboard the Pelican reported that they had detected immense plumes that they believed were made of oil particles.

The results were not final, and came as a surprise to the government. They raise a major concern, that sea life in concentrated areas could be exposed to a heavy load of toxic materials as the plumes drift through the sea.

Under scrutiny from NOAA, the researchers have retreated to their laboratories to finish their analysis.

In an interview, Dr. Lubchenco said she was mobilizing every possible NOAA asset to get a more accurate picture of the environmental damage, and was even in the process of hiring fishing vessels to do some scientific work.

“Our intention is to deploy every single thing we’ve got,” Dr. Lubchenco said. “If it’s not in the region, we’re bringing it there.”



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84275)5/20/2010 11:34:05 AM
From: lorne1 Recommendation  Respond to of 224729
 
ken...This cant be true..a democrat defying hussein obama?

Maybe this means that there is the odd sane person in the democratic party...your world is falling apart...to bad. :-)

Rhode Island lawmaker files bill that follows Arizona immigration law
Thursday, May 20, 2010
By Karen Lee Ziner
Journal Staff Writer

Rep. Peter Palumbo, D-Cranston, right, with Rep. Peter Petrarca.


PROVIDENCE –– State Rep. Peter G. Palumbo, saying that he’s “fed up,” and “we’re all under attack” by illegal immigrants, has filed a bill mirroring a controversial Arizona law that is considered the toughest immigration legislation in the country.

Palumbo’s bill, like the Arizona law, gives local police more authority to question and arrest illegal immigrants. It makes failure to carry immigration documents a state crime, and requires police to question people “where reasonable suspicion exists” that the person is unlawfully in the United States. The bill, H 8412, also targets people who hire illegal immigrants, or who knowingly transport them.

Much of Palumbo’s bill is taken verbatim from the Arizona bill, SB 1070, signed into law by Gov. Jan Brewer last month, over the objection of President Obama. It would put in place far stricter controls than Palumbo’s previous unsuccessful attempts, or Governor Carcieri’s controversial 2008 executive order cracking down on illegal immigration.

Palumbo, a Cranston Democrat, had stated he had no plans to file such legislation this year. But he changed his mind last week as opposition to the Arizona law — including a spreading economic boycott and legal challenges — continued to mount.

“What pushed me over the edge was, when I heard the mayor of San Francisco and mayor of L.A. chastising the governor [Brewer] for her efforts, I just snapped. When they said they’re going to economically boycott one of their sovereign states — that’s what did it,” Palumbo said.

“We’re all under attack, basically,” he said. “People are coming in from all our borders and they’re coming in quickly. Everyone agrees something needs to be done … I’m trying to show the people in Arizona that there are more people in support of them, than against them.”

Brewer’s signing of the Arizona law set off protests around the country, and prompted the filing of a number of constitutional challenges and lawsuits. The latest challenge, a federal class-action suit, was filed Monday by the American Civil Liberties Union and other civil-rights organizations.

Meanwhile, recent polls have shown increased support for the Arizona law. A Rasmussen poll of 1,000 people, released Wednesday, showed 55 percent of U.S. voters support the idea of allowing the police to stop and check the status of suspected illegal immigrants.

Steven Brown, executive director of the Rhode Island affiliate of the ACLU, called Palumbo’s bill “nothing less than a deliberate recipe for increased racial profiling in the state. It purports to give police this magical bloodhound quality of being able to sniff out any individual who is in the country illegally. How a police officer otherwise is able to adopt this reasonable suspicion that somebody is here illegally is beyond me.”

Brown added, “I don’t think there’s going to be a lot of support for this. I think Rhode Islanders on the whole are much more cognizant of the incredibly divisive and mean-spirited nature of a bill like this. It certainly will have some support. There’s no question there is a core anti-immigrant mentality out there but on the whole I think public officials will recognize this bill for the insidious attack on civil rights that it is.”

Terry Gorman, head of Rhode Islanders for Immigration Law Enforcement (RIILE), said he and his organization plan to support Palumbo’s effort. Palumbo said Gorman has helped him with “fact-gathering” about illegal immigration.

Gorman said, “It’s incredibly important that we have laws like the Arizona law if we’re ever going to do anything about illegal immigration. The situation is never going to be resolved unless measures are taken.”



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84275)5/20/2010 11:43:25 AM
From: lorne4 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224729
 
A billboard asking whether President George W. Bush is missed yet stands alongside I-95 just south of 151 street in Miami.
PATRICK FARRELL / MIAMI HERALD STAFF


Read more: miamiherald.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (84275)5/20/2010 11:45:44 AM
From: chartseer  Respond to of 224729
 
oh bummer! What about the salmon who can no longer swim up stream to spawn? Farm grown salmon aren't the same as free range salmon.
What ever became of the tide power of the san francisco bay area? It was suppose to supply the whole of san francisco with energy. No body cares what it will do to the wild life it will displace. Or what effect it will have on the tides or the water temperatures.

"For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."

Don't worry! Be happy!

the hopeless comrade chartseer in the new era of reactionless reactions