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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (275302)	6/4/2010 1:39:12 AM
From: Maurice Winn	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

I wonder how many homosexuals are supporters of liberating Palestine and generally backing Islamic Jihad. Many women seem to think it a jolly good idea for Islamic rule to be spread. Perhaps they should take a close look at the implementation around the world and see what it will mean for them or their daughters. Few people seem to be aware of the end-game. Germany got well geared up militarily in the 1930s before anyone realized what it all meant though the writing was on the wall and the windows of Jewish shops were being smashed and Jews attacked. Moslem ideology isn't a secret. What it means is clear. They are open about it and they need to be because they want support from a billion people, and are getting it. To the extent that they get power, they will wield it. They are wielding it and Europe is now cowed and frightened, forfeiting time-honoured values and rights such as free speech. Canada has gone. The USA is wilting. China is quite staunch and doesn't give them the time of day. Japan has quite a contingent of Islamic immigrants but they are a minuscule minority and won't be given an inch. The namby pamby "free" world is the most vulnerable and especially across Europe where major immigration is already done and it's on to the second and third generations. They can't be sent "home" any more than Jews in Israel can be sent "home". They are from there and have been for generations. If I published a book demanding murder as is demanded in the Koran, I'd be prosecuted and gaoled. The Koran is illegal but nobody is willing to take it on. Inciting to murder is not a permitted "free speech". Biblical carnage is equivalent - so I suppose they are considered historical documents or something. But how about we have Mein Kampf on sale then? It's amusing that Germany made it illegal which is richly ironical - their vaunted "freedom" doesn't include "denying the Holocaust" whatever that means, or selling Mein Kampf. But Islamic Jihad is okay. There is much fun to be had in history still and with 6 billion of us, there's plenty of scope for a LOT of it. Mqurice

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (275302)	6/4/2010 5:14:00 PM
From: Garden Rose	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Hawk, since you are so devoted to international law when we debated the legality of the Iraq war, you should know that international law has not declared Hamas a terrorist group since it has the right to resist Israeli occupation (theft of Palestinian lands). The only reason Israel declared Hamas a terrorist group is because they had no standing to keep the stolen lands w/o some kind of defense; the terrorist lingo enables Israel to try and keep by theft those lands that are recognized by international law as not belonging to Israel. It was done to muddy the issue of thefted lands and provides a great "cover" for them to continue their thievery as is being done in East Jerusalem.