To: tejek who wrote (77919 ) 6/10/2010 1:03:36 AM From: Wharf Rat Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317 "they could have put the hi def tape on one of the helicopters". No; really? Weenie. A good reporter would charter a chopper and a software guy, fly out to the rig, do the appropriate electronic magic, and fly home with a scoop (news story, not oil collection device). I've decided that the complaints about the inability to guess a number are to avoid talking about their oilcoholism. When you get down to it, if you know it puts out 5000 and nothing gets cleaned up, it's bad. If you don't know it puts out 50K, but it all gets cleaned up, that's good. Here's a pretty good comment from a new member of Oilanon. jodyinphilly on June 9, 2010 - 10:19pm I am new to this site (a few weeks), but have spent probably too much time here for my over-all mental health in the past few weeks. I came here because I want to understand what is happening from a scientific/technical perspective. After better understanding some of the tech talk (thank you very much!), and listening to the back and forth of the political discussion, the only thing I think I am clear about at this point is that this disaster is very complicated, both in it's making, but more so in how to stop it/clean it up (if that is even possible). I am also quite clear that this is my fault. I have contributed to the demand for oil.... I have wanted cheap gas, affordable heat, I have used petroleum based products all my life. I have not insisted enough that regulations be adhered to by my governmental agencies. I have not said Enough! when there have been deaths at explosions at refineries or on oil rigs or from other spills. I, like many other people on this planet have "settled" for petroleum based resources and have not demanded alternatives... have not volunteered to pay more in taxes to develop alternatives. I say this as someone who has devoted most of my life to working for human rights as an activist... and working to end nuclear proliferation. I don't know what this spill will ultimately mean for the people who live and work on the gulf and for the rest of our country. I hope it means that we will seriously take a look at how we, the collective WE are living. And, I hope that we can move beyond blaming politicians and start taking a look at ourselves and see our role in the creation of this nightmare. Ok.. off my soapbox and back to lurking and learning.