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To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (259231)	7/8/2010 10:07:14 AM
From: joseffy	Respond to of 306849

Those his persuasion repeat and repeat the same talking points ad infinitum. The talking point now is that you must accept the illegals (how dare you use that word) as legal. If you don't you are "un-American." That's the latest Soros talking point sent out to the drones to repeat endlessly and throw at anyone who doesn't fall in line. Will it fly?

To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (259231)	7/8/2010 10:23:03 AM
From: neolib	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 306849

It makes a difference out here, I can tell you that. What exactly is the difference, assuming the numbers stay the same? I happily admit there is some "corrosive" effect on society due to the wholesale ignoring of the law. But of course, there are many laws on the books which we do the same thing with. Do you think that the "corrosive" effect of ignoring all these other laws is any less than of the particular one you focused on? Why? Perhaps instead you really think that the numbers will change, yet you have stated you are happy with a guest worker program. In that case, the numbers stay the same (assuming you don't actually want to shift the employment dynamics). If the numbers stay approximately the same, what is the great improvement you expect? The happy feeling of knowing the law is being followed? The only thing I can see is what I stated before: we will structure our economy and culture around a dual class system, which as I stated before is about as unamerican as you can get. You point out that illegal vs legal is also unamerican. I don't dispute that at all. As I pointed out, the illegal part is only for one generation, then their descendents are incorporated into america like all the prior immigrants have been, so that distinction goes away. In your approach, the distinction will be kept and our society will eventually think having a servant class is an American birthright. Is that what you want?