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To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (260159)	7/12/2010 2:17:30 PM
From: NOW	Respond to of 306849

Anyway, look, my question is: what is The Economy. I say, there is no economy. The economy is a fiction. A failed metaphor. A term so broad in definition that it has none. Is that too flippant, too glib? Okay. Yaaaaah, the economy in a tiered and pyramidal hierarchy of increasingly inhuman interests overlaid an inverted tiered pyramid of possession. Well, but, no, not really, because the economy isn't really about possession, per se; the accumulated "wealth" in currency and fancy shit of the richiest-rich is incidental to the economy. Bill Gates fortune is a partially convertible abstraction of a metaphoric ownership of a quantity of inactual titles to a legal entity defined by its own being-ness, which is the emergent quality of its own nonverbal declaration of its will-to-be to the commensurately abstract government of the equally probabalistic state. It exists, but it's never there. Isn't this fun? The economy is the "wisdom of the crowd," it is the "market" as a self-regulating superintelligence, the collective human superorganismic expression, the transcendent eusocial ordering of the species. The economy is to physical Homo sapiens as the mind is to the brain; as the soul is to the self. It is the metaphysical hyperreality overlaying and encompassing mundane, phenomenological reality. And so on and so forth, until the economy, which is broadly presumed to be somehow more concrete than the flighty abstractions of art and culture and the banal abstractions of political ideology starts to sound like a long-lost Yes concept album." whoisioz.blogspot.com

To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (260159)	7/12/2010 8:10:43 PM
From: Tommaso	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

Patron, I have a strong conservative streak. I think the majority of people who reach age 40 and have problems have made several thousand bad decisions. I am fed up with righteous people of color who want to be recompensed for the mistreatment of other persons deep in the past. I really have no understanding of the same-sex marriage movement. I do not sympathize with wobbly-kneed liberals. But I have seen my house painted more efficiently and cheaply by our little brown brothers from south of the border, and I have seen them taking care of lawns and gardens around the city. The only young men I can recall giving up their seats on the Washington Metro to me and my wife (we're older than I want to admit) were Mexicans. So --to put it in a way that will offend everyone-- if hispanics are willing to displace both rednecks and african-americans who are unwilling to do n*****r work, more power to them.

To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (260159)	7/13/2010 10:05:05 AM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

My own belief is that illegal immigration is only a hundred billion dollar problem in terms of what they are stealing from us. Wall Street and the financial industry is stealing trillions. So if we want to be rational about this country's problems, we'd better start focusing on the things that really matter, like making sure the bankster criminals don't completely destroy this country. Bernanke is public criminal # 1, and he was appointed by Bush and is not controlled by Obama. This Congress has refused to reign him in. Geithner is public criminal # 2 and Obama should fire him immediately. Forget about illegals. They are a red herring. Focus on the squid and his minions. They are the real thing we need to worry about.