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To: average joe who wrote (8391)	7/12/2010 11:08:44 PM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

<This is nothing new. It is the same tactics the creationists employed decades ago> But there has been some "evolution" in (some of the) the religionist's positions. First of all the Catholic church has embraced evolution since then... further, some of the more severe religionists, by embracing the God of ID have also embraced evolution... as ID IS evolution, which they had previously had rejected. Further, they have opened the way for FURTHER evolution of their (idea of) God, as now as this theory unfolds, they will have to continue to change their idea of God in order to continue to accept it. Of course that's here nor there to local wacko's here... as they reject science & ANY evolution first (to save face), and think later. ID is right out for them accept as a forum for throwing stones at Darwin. dAK

To: average joe who wrote (8391)	7/13/2010 7:46:19 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

Of course the evolution debate is a philosophical one. Is existence a purposeless accident or not? A lot of people find the purposeless accident idea freeing and want to push it. Real science has almost nothing to do with it on either side.

To: average joe who wrote (8391)	7/13/2010 11:48:11 AM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

<Both of these statements represent what we call facts, and facts are those things concerning which there is neither controversy nor dispute. Tallahassee is the capital of Florida because everyone accepts it as the capital; and 6x6 makes 36 because no one thinks of arguing about it. Both truths are truths by convention, which is a fancy way of saying that they are truths that we are all prepared to accept without argument. > Better tell Pope Greg that... he thinks 2+2 is something other.... some "universal" truth. Of course it's the only way to keep his evil "relativism" boogy man from breaking out of his closet. DAK

To: average joe who wrote (8391)	7/13/2010 9:43:33 PM
From: Solon	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

Excellent article! She saw right to the core of things. Incredible genius... "[Immanuel] Kant did not seek to subordinate science to religion: he merely sought to establish their epistemological equality. Wishing to save religion (particularly religious morality) from the onslaughts of science, he gave his followers the intellectual ammunition that enabled them to claim that the discoveries of science were no better, no more certain, no more valid than their mystic revelations. That is all he had to do. That is all the 'creationists' demand: just equality. The equality of science and religion -- i.e., the equality of reason and faith."