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To: Metacomet who wrote (137479)7/14/2010 5:20:10 PM
From: kidl8 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206093
 
OT ... Xenophobic ... Maybe so. Now get busy and build a church (your choice of denomination) in this neighbourhood:
tallestbuildingintheworld.com

I am sure you would receive a "warm welcome".



To: Metacomet who wrote (137479)7/15/2010 1:54:32 AM
From: whitepine3 Recommendations  Respond to of 206093
 
Canadians, who were within one % vote of dissolving the nation over Quebec separatism, really have no place lecturing those of us in the US about xenophobia, cultural, linguistic, political, or otherwise.

Yo, metawheat.............

even you can undertake unrigorous research at wiki.......
en.wikipedia.org

"In the concession speech given by Parti Québécois Premier Jacques Parizeau after narrowly losing 50.58% to 49.42% in the 1995 Quebec referendum on sovereignty, he blamed the defeat on l'argent puis des votes ethniques. This was translated in English speaking media as "money and the ethnic vote", whereas a correct translation would have been "money and ethnic votes", as he had used des and not les. The source of this discrepancy ultimately lay with the interpreter who was translating Parizeau's speech as it was being broadcast live across Canada.

Parizeau was referring to two controversies - the quick granting of Canadian citizenship to thousands of new voters, and the large amount of money spent on the "No" campaign.[citation needed] English-language media in Canada, also widely reported that Parizeau had called on Quebec sovereignists to adopt a strategy of gearing their efforts only towards white French-speaking Quebecers in future referendum campaigns, when in fact what he said was to stop talking about us the francophones and instead talk about us, the 60% who voted for [1].

The media-storm meant that Parizeau practically committed "political suicide." Parizeau announced his resignation as premier the next day, although he has consistently asserted that he planned to resign long before the vote in the event of a "Yes" defeat. Parizeau angrily denied media speculation that his remarks had been made under the influence of alcohol. The former premier never apologized for his statement, which caused some to accuse the separatist movement of being racist."



To: Metacomet who wrote (137479)7/15/2010 2:02:21 AM
From: whitepine1 Recommendation  Respond to of 206093
 
Yo metawheat,

perhaps you can explain why this Canadian fella was NEVER convicted for his xenophobia.

again...from wiki...

paste:

"On December 13, 2002, Ahenakew gave a speech to an FSIN group, which was attended by James Parker, a reporter from the Saskatoon StarPhoenix. He made references to "goddamn immigrants" in Canada during his speech. During a question-and-answer session following his lecture, Ahenakew said that Jews were a disease in Germany and that Hitler was trying to "clean up Europe" when he "fried six million of those guys." He also stated his opinion that Israel and the United States (specifically mentioning George W. Bush) were going to start the next world war.[2]

The Germans used to tell me, and I got to know them well because I played soccer against them and with them and so forth. But they used to tell me that you guys are blessed. What we know about the Indians in Canada. They are blessed. But that blessing is being destroyed by your immigrants that are going over there. Especially the Jews, they said. The Second World War was started by the Jews and the Third World War, whatever it is, is between Israel and the Arab countries. I was there as well. But there's going to be a war because the Israelis and the “Bushies” – you know, the bully, the bigot in the United States – tells you that if you're not with me you're against me.

After the session concluded, the StarPhoenix reporter asked him to clarify these remarks, and he explained that while serving in the army after the war, Germans had told him the Jews had provoked the war. The StarPhoenix quoted him as further saying:

The Jews damn near owned all of Germany prior to the war. That's why Hitler came in. He was going to make damn sure that the Jews didn't take over Germany, or even Europe. That's why he fried six million of those guys, you know. Jews would have owned the goddamned world. And look what they're doing now, they're killing people in Arab countries.

The reporter asked how Ahenakew could justify the Holocaust. The StarPhoenix quoted Ahenakew as replying:

How else do you get rid of a disease like that, that's going to take over, that's going to dominate?

[edit] Public reaction

The comments were first circulated in the Canadian national media several days later, and were quickly condemned as antisemitic by Jewish groups, aboriginal leaders and Canadian politicians alike. Both Perry Bellegarde, president of FSIN, and Matthew Coon Come, AFN national chief, were quick to distance themselves from Ahenakew's comments.

In June 2003, Ahenakew was formally charged by the Saskatchewan Justice Department with promoting hatred.[2]

In an interview in the July/August 2003 edition of This Magazine, Ahenakew expressed to reporter Alex Roslin his dissatisfaction with what he called "racial control" of the media, saying that "when a group of people, a race of people, control the world media, something has to be done about it." The article also quotes claims that Ahenakew had long held racist beliefs against Jews, Blacks and other ethnic groups that had been shielded from the public.[3]

In connection with the remarks from 2002, which were recorded on tape with his knowledge, Ahenakew was later convicted in July 2005 of willfully promoting hatred against Jews. Ahenakew apologized for the remarks, saying they did not represent his beliefs and that he was "caught up in the heat of the moment. I was attempting to spark debate on what has been happening to our First Nations people." At his trial, he later recanted his apology and blamed his outburst on his diabetes, some wine and a change in medication, a defense that was rejected by the court and he was subsequently fined $1,000. Despite this, he retained his belief that the Jews started the Second World War. Jewish groups, aboriginals and politicians later called for Ahenakew's membership in the Order of Canada to be revoked. The Governor General revoked Ahenakew's membership shortly after his trial.[4]

In June 2006, the decision was overturned by the Saskatchewan Court of Queen's Bench on the grounds that the trial judge failed to properly take into account that the remarks were uttered in the midst of an angry confrontation with a reporter, and therefore may not have constituted a "willful" promotion of hatred. A new trial was ordered.[5]
[edit] Second trial

Ahenakew was retried in Saskatoon in 2008. In February 2009, Saskatchewan Provincial Court Judge Wilfred Tucker acquitted Ahenakew because his statements, while "revolting, disgusting and untrue" did not show an intent to incite hatred."

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Perhaps you should keep your Anti-US feelings in a closet. There is more than enough dirty laundry in your own house to cleanse first.