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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (88572)	8/4/2010 1:35:51 AM
From: FJB	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224729

RE:but what grounds do you have for not allowing religious use, and for telling people what they can do with their own property? Are there rules preventing neo-Nazis from building headquarters across from temples or outside the gates of Auschwitz? Human decency says it is a bad idea. Yes, I think Islam is as evil as Nazism. You can hear many Islamic leaders calling for the extermination of Israel. Ahmadinejad does it on a weekly basis as do the leaders of Hamas(it is in their charter). Have you seen how your average Muslim treats women? Their wives and daughters are nothing more than property to them.

To: TimF who wrote (88572)	8/4/2010 7:06:01 AM
From: SGJ	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224729

The government has no right whatsoever to deny that right, and if it were tried the court would almost certainly strike it down as a violation of the U.S. constitution." He's an enabler for the Islamic menace. NY City or State could claim eminent domain and build some public project there. Bloomberg makes me want to puke.

To: TimF who wrote (88572)	8/4/2010 7:50:59 AM
From: lorne	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224729

Tim...Tim..."Place of worship" is a pretty serious stretch, "the exact site" is an even bigger one, since the mosque is not being planned for the site, just nearby. When I first heard about the controversy I thought it was AT the site, and then I could really understand the feelings about it. But it simply isn't on the site.".... Why would you say this when you know from what I posted that your statement is not at all accurate? I did not say Trade Centre was a place of worship. I did not say they wanted to build their mosk on the exact Trade Centre site. The USA is a country of many religions, the islamic radicals were not attacking any one religion , they were attacking the American way of life...the great satan as islam leaders like to say...The Trade centre IMO represents this way of American life of freedom to islam. And in any case I was asking if you were aware of this islam custom in countries they have defeated? Your statement above was a reaction to this statement from me, however you did not post ALL of what I did say...why? ....."Are you aware that it is customary for islam to build their mosk or place of worship on the exact site where the people they have defeated worshiped? The Trade centre was America's economic heart... kind of like a capitalist place of worship."... Here is the next part you did not post or read? ...." Not exactly on the same site but close enough...block and half away...one of the passenger jets landing gear that hit the Trade Centre crashed through the roof of the building the moslums want to build their mosk in."....

To: TimF who wrote (88572)	8/4/2010 12:42:50 PM
From: FJB	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224729

Not at Ground Zero (from LindyBill) The story of the proposed mosque at the site of the World Trade Center has been thoroughly misrepresented, as have the parties behind the project. They present themselves as ambassadors of moderate Islam. Daisy Khan, executive director of the American Society for Muslim Advancement, says the project aims to put the Muslim community "at the front and center to start the healing." Ms. Khan knows better, because she is also Mrs. Feisal Abdul Rauf, the wife of the main Islamic cleric behind the project. Rauf is no moderate. He presents himself as a peacemaking Islamic Gandhi, but he is in fact an apologist for the terrorist outfit Hamas, which he refuses even to identify as a terrorist organization. Nor is Rauf exactly full-throated in his rejection of terrorism, offering only this: "The issue of terrorism is a very complex question." While he cannot quite bring himself to blame the terrorists for being terrorists, he finds it easy to blame the United States for being a victim of terrorism: "I wouldn't say that the United States deserved what happened, but the United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened." As National Review's Andrew C. McCarthy has documented, Rauf's book, published in the West as What's Right with Islam Is What's Right with America, had a significantly different title abroad: A Call to Prayer from the World Trade Center Rubble: Islamic Dawa in the Heart of America Post-9/11. "Dawa" means Islamic proselytizing, a process that ends in the imposition of sharia. The book was published abroad with the assistance of the Islamic Society of North America and the International Institute of Islamic Thought, which are two appendages of the Muslim Brotherhood, an organization behind much of the world's murderous Islamic terrorism. The Islamic Society of North America was identified as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terrorism case. The co-founder and president of the International Institute of Islamic Thought, Shaykh Taha Jabir al-Awani, was an unindicted co-conspirator in the Sami al-Arian terrorism case." article.nationalreview.com