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To: TH who wrote (267021)	8/6/2010 10:10:19 PM
From: Arran Yuan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

Lucky for you as you have the alternative to be all bullion. I still have some capital stuck with Rollover IRAs. I am aware of some avenues to be in bullion, but I am not sure of the integrity of those. BTW, it could be that miners index run ahead of bullion during 2002/3-2004. My hunch is that another round of 02/03-04 run is approaching. Probably when pit Au makes a new high in the coming week or two?

To: TH who wrote (267021)	8/7/2010 1:27:35 AM
From: Perspective	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

I'm sick of it, too. But I think it may just be what happens when there are no more investors in the market at all. I read Hussman almost every week, and he'll go on about how stocks should be priced as fractional shares of corporate cash flows, and only the portion that is actually returned to shareholders. Of course he's right, if you're an investor. But investors are gone from the market completely. It's kind of like saying in 2005 that a banker should only write loans that he knows will be repaid. Look at what happened. If you were the wise banker, you spent years losing business to the jackasses who milked the system for all they could. Then when the shit hit the fan, the f*kers got bailed out, and the good guys got to pay for it. All the while, it's being aided and abetted by that dckhead Bernanke and TTT. If we had real leadership at either the Fed or Treasury, this bull$hit would have been stopped cold years ago. All that's left are gamblers who are playing game theory, be it on Wall Street or in banking, and a handful of fund managers that have to be 100% invested all the time, since that's the way to keep their jobs. Nobody is paid to think any more. It's ruinous for the country, but hey, f***kin' party on. `BC

To: TH who wrote (267021)	8/7/2010 9:17:10 AM
From: Perspective	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Wow, outstanding Heinz. A rebuke of economists who think the "rational markets" can help dampen boom/bust cycles - acting-man.com Rational expectations can not stop the boom-bust cycle <Charles Prince, the dancer – rational expectations didn't save him or his enterprise from the ravages of the boom-bust cycle. “When the music stops, in terms of liquidity, things will be complicated. But as long as the music is playing, you've got to get up and dance. We're still dancing.”> Destroyed a leading global company - but how many millions did he walk away with? `BC

To: TH who wrote (267021)	8/7/2010 10:37:45 AM
From: Smiling Bob	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

Nothing unusual here? CNBS would say "investors" were buying. I'd bet I would see this pattern repeat itself over and over, ALL a result of programs Random investors or even fund managers do not collectively think and act in such a synchronized fashion like flocks of birds or schools of fish. That's obviously impossible, yet CNBS and bulls say we should believe otherwise. This pattern spread across a random swath of stocks can ONLY being accomplished with programmed trading tightly controlled by a few This is not the product of coincidence Any entity that wields this much consolidated power will not be investigated. I'd guess if you wanted to trade on value and avoid this manipulation, you'd have to find stocks that trade under the radar, out of the indices and ETFs, and on their own merits. But unfortunately, when TSHTF, they all come crashing down

To: TH who wrote (267021)	8/7/2010 11:36:02 AM
From: pstuartb	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

We should be down huge based on ALL the data from this week. Remember the spring of 2001, or even worse late 2001, when the econ data was consistently terrible but the market kept zooming up? This kind of action can be frustrating as hell, but it isn't new. I don't think fundamentals matter much in any time frame less than several months. Anything shorter than that and it's all about whatever WS can get away with. Short squeezes, stop running, HFT, carry trades, Fed-funded primary dealer liquidity - they have lots of tricks in their bags, some old, some new. Remember how we used to see all these ridiculous headfakes with analyst upgrades and downgrades that would make even big caps gap and run all over the place. But retail investors have been run out of the market so WS doesn't bother with that anymore. Short term manipulation has always been there in one form or another. Seems like it used to be more blatant, and now it's more robotic and stealthy. They'll always think of something.