To: TobagoJack who wrote (65998 ) 9/12/2010 5:46:46 PM From: energyplay Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 218074 Remember that RIM being in Canada, will be working with SIS. SIS works very closely with the UK And there are fewer restraints on the SIS than on FBI/NSA/CIA etc. Canada has the Official Secrets Act, which allows prior restraint of publication of any information. US avoids prior restraint. There is no 4 th Amendment, but extensive precedent - but that precedent is not as strong. Fourth Amendment – Protection from unreasonable search and seizure. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. **************** If all of a corporations VPNs run through Canada, with all their email, that provides a great opportunity to gather a great DEPTH of multiple similar emails. Also, with the many mass distribution emails companies send out, some will go in plain text form to other accounts. The occasional plan text can provide a big leg up. Also, look at emails with multiple replies - ************************ >>> joe said <this block of text has been in 3 other emails> >> mary said > timmy said I say why not have the picnic at Toxic Lake Park ? It's never crowded... <those ">" show up more frequently than the letter e, and in a consistent place, and a consistent pattern.> *********************** In World War II, codebreakers in the UK took advantage of the Germans preference for stock phrases and long addresses at the start of messages, and signing their messages with HH for Heil Hitler... Having a bunch of these multiple email exchanges helps make life much easier.crypto.cs.mcgill.ca ********************************************************* I hate to be crude, but why would you trust ANYBODY ? You know Canada is in bed with the UK, and does deals with the US, and the UK and US trade information.... And it is reasonable to expect, based on history, that the Russians may have some penetration of one or more agencies.