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To: Valuepro who wrote (276389)	9/16/2010 1:30:48 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 306849

On that, we agree VP. The scale and number of the members required for the "secret groups" argue that they would not remain secret long. A great example is the "9/11 truth" bullshit. It would have required so many people to keep secrets, it's just impossible on it's face. The truth will out, always.

To: Valuepro who wrote (276389)	9/16/2010 3:25:15 PM
From: Valuepro	Respond to of 306849

CORRECTION: Serbo-Croation should be Serbo-Croatian.

To: Valuepro who wrote (276389)	9/16/2010 3:25:16 PM
From: Valuepro	Respond to of 306849

CORRECTION: Serbo-Croation should be Serbo-Croatian.

To: Valuepro who wrote (276389)	9/16/2010 10:46:37 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

>>I'm just very much less inclined to believe that secret groups are successfully conspiring to control my every move, or are about to succeed in doing so.<< that's a straw man. i know that is more comfortable than reality. but i deal in reality. did the federal reserve bank conspire to ILLEGALLY break federal reserve law (section 2A) for nearly 3 decades? yes or no. does this law breaking have a material effect on society? yes or no. did the former head of goldman sachs and bernanke conspire to make sure their former employer and current employers got paid out trillions of dollars in losses with basically no accountability or obligation to pay it back? yes or no. is the government conspiring to allow certain institutions (and not others) to legally commit what was formerly called securities fraud by allowing fantasy marks of assets? yes or no. did the government conspire to limit the constitutional rights of citizenry via the patriot act? yes or no. did the government conspire to lie about the gulf of tonkin in order to create the lie that it was OK to begin fighting the vietnam war? yes or no. did the government conspire to wiretap all americans and then have the president lie about it when questions arose? yes or no. did the government conspire to rescind a multitude of constitutional rights during katrina? yes or no. did the FBI conspire to design and put a live bomb in the hands of terrorists that they then went and used it in the garage of WTC? yes or no. did the government admit to conspiring to the desire to assassinate american citizens and blame it on castro in order to create a false flag invasion of cuba in operation northwoods? yes or no. do corporations conspire to lie about the news? yes or no. do the troop conspire to protect poppy fields that eventually turn up as heroin all over the world? yes or no. did the CIA conspire to run cocaine by the tons into America? yes or no. do you even know this stuff? ongoing liberty requires vigilance, not arrogant ignorance. all verifiable and independently provable FACTS. ignorance is not like a bullet proof vest, it doesn't make you safer. you clearly can't emotionally deal with this at this time. i can only hope that more and more cross the line and see the corruption - where a multinational can PURPOSEFULLY INFECT PEOPLE WITH AIDS AND HAVE CRIMINAL IMMUNITY! youtube.com yes, there are some subtleties. this isn't a 48 hour plan. it isn't a straight line tyranny, although it has definitely turned hot. they use your emotions and psychology and sociology against you. they tell you that is what they will do, but most are too ignorant to even know it (they count on that - your ignorance). youtube.com youtube.com We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries.-- David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991 this isn't conspiracy theory, it is admitted conspiracy FACT. no, the controlled media won't tell you (ROCKEFELLER ADMITS AS MUCH - EDUCATE YOURSELF!!!!) and validate your feelings. they will validate WMD in iraq, though. they will validate that mercury is good for the brains of children. they will validate that obscene debt levels are OK and recovery is right around the corner, though. in the mean time, bill gates is conditioning people like you to accept government sanctioned death panels... youtube.com no mention of trillions on phony wars and tens of trillions on banker bailouts, though. or the constant looting of the social security surplus. no mention of the gates foundation sending millions to "la raza" to create discord among the "peasants." nope - granny has to go AND THAT'S TIED TO JOB LOSSES, NOT A CRIMINAL BANKING MOB THAT HAS SEIZED CONTROL OF GOVERNMENT - THAT'S ALL GOOD. until men in this country start acting like it, society is doomed.

To: Valuepro who wrote (276389)	9/16/2010 11:31:56 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

zerohedge.com so how any people in the world know that someone, somewhere, is paying interest on every federal reserve note in existence - including digits in the computers? how many people know that it is IMPOSSIBLE for society to pay off its monetary debts REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH THEY WORK? i never learned it in school - and i can think of few things more important and impactful. apropos to you - from the comments... the fed is implementing the indentured status that every indentured servant needs to be properly, legally, referred to as slave to their debt. ((pusher) god damn the pusher man.) youtube.com the basis of the "country", nation , the united states of america, is slavery. slavery to the whims of the federal reserve bank and it's "money". debt notes, your debt notes are it's free "money", it's interest is your labor that you give to your master as a token of your appreciation for being allowed to walk on it's earth. as the sovereign has signed over your birthright to a banker,(treason) a pusher with a bad war habit. and you love it as you know nothing else. it is in your blood and neurology.