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To: MrLucky who wrote (383099)9/17/2010 1:56:58 PM
From: FJB  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794102
 
RE:If O'Donnell wins this thing, those two will implode.

Krauthammer gave 10-1 odds on O'Reilly that she does not win.



To: MrLucky who wrote (383099)9/17/2010 2:01:05 PM
From: mph  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794102
 
it's all about ego w/ guys like that.



To: MrLucky who wrote (383099)9/17/2010 2:02:22 PM
From: Carolyn2 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 794102
 
I just can't believe Krauthammer would do that. He claimed she had a 1 in 10 chance of winning, which I think is false.

We don't want RINOs - they betray our principles.

Go O'Donnell!

Palin has it right - vote for principles. This is what the majority truly want, having been on the receiving end of this blatant corruption.



To: MrLucky who wrote (383099)9/17/2010 3:33:39 PM
From: Geoff Altman  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 794102
 
"Krauthammer is not a fool, but is a stubborn commentator who sometimes will not smell the coffee.

You know how much I respect CH's opines but I've had to disagree with him here. I'm not sure if it's stubbornness or it's a failure to grasp the significance of the TEA groups and the depth of our current (non-violent) civil war and how extraordinary these times are....

Even towards the end of Carter there was nothing like the TEA movement that I remember....



To: MrLucky who wrote (383099)9/17/2010 3:40:11 PM
From: Geoff Altman2 Recommendations  Respond to of 794102
 
When either RINO, Snow or Collins comes up for reelection I've got some money that's going to whoever opposes them. It was nothing short of treason their support for this HC abomination. The thing that really kills me is that both of them were more than familiar with all the problems associated with the HC program since Maine was already being subject to them. Screwing up Maine obviously wasn't enough......



To: MrLucky who wrote (383099)9/17/2010 7:44:35 PM
From: Peter Dierks1 Recommendation  Respond to of 794102
 
Krauthammer ... cannot stand it that Palin, who he believes is incompetent and unelectable, is still picking winners.

This sort of reminds me of the criticisms of President Bush 43 at the start of his first term. He was supposed to be stupid. Everyone recognised that he picked a brilliant mix of advisors.

How did a dipstick surround himself with such smart people? Maybe he was just playing dumb to sucker the stupid people!

Maybe the liberals and those foolish enough to believe them underestimate Governor Palin.



To: MrLucky who wrote (383099)9/17/2010 8:04:05 PM
From: Brumar895 Recommendations  Respond to of 794102
 
Chris Matthews, Eugene Robinson think O'Donnell can win:

Eugene Robinson: She has mastered what should be called the Sarah Palin Affect -- the perkiness, the folksiness, the religiosity, the occasional flash of bared fangs -- and she performs it well.

realclearpolitics.com

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Chris Matthews Bets Lib Guest Christine O'Donnell Wins in November

By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive)
Wed, 09/15/2010 - 23:11 ET

Chris Matthews on Wednesday departed from the liberal media conventional wisdom that Tea Party candidate Christine O'Donnell's defeat of Republican favorite Mike Castle was good news for Democrats and President Obama.

Quite the contrary, the "Hardball" host has become extremely pessimistic about Democrat chances to retain Congress in the upcoming midterm elections, so much so that he likened his Party to the Titanic.

"The boat is sinking," he told fellow liberal David Corn. "The establishment is sinking."

When Corn tried to push back on Matthews' view, the devout liberal said, "I take O`Donnell. How many points are you going to give me?" (videos follow with transcripts and commentary):

DAVID CORN, MOTHER JONES: Two points. First, you have -- we have to see how these Tea Partiers do with a general election audience. And the second point --

CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Oh, you`re taking the -

CORN: No, no, no.

MATTHEWS: You are trying to deny --

(CROSSTALK)

CORN: See what happens.

MATTHEWS: You`re still denying it.

CORN: I was on last night. You know I`m not denying it. I think they`re major threats to the Democrats. But we got to see what happens.

MATTHEWS: Well, let me get this straight. As the Titanic sinks and it`s all the way up to the top decks, and it`s already up to the top decks, well, let`s see how it affects the first class passengers. The boat is sinking. The establishment is sinking.

CORN: Listen, Leonardo is still holding on tight. And we see how -- what happens to him.

(LAUGHTER)

CORN: But the other point is, you know that presidential primaries are like family holiday gatherings. All of the internal dysfunctions get played out. And so, really what happens right now, whether the establishment comes and supports people like Christine O`Donnell or not, those passions are going to be really stirred up and if you see Karl Rove continuing to battle with the Tea Party forces, then I think it will put more pressure and create more anger on the far right that will turn into explosive.

MATTHEWS: OK.

CORN: You know -- it will be explosive.

MATTHEWS: You`re using a lot of words, David. Usually, you`re much more punchy. The reason you`re taking a lot of words --

CORN: I`ll make it simple --

(CROSSTALK)

CORN: I think it`s still hard for the Republicans.

MATTHEWS: I look at Rand Paul, that the guy is going to win. I look at Pat Toomey now and I hate to say, this is a guy who`s going to win. I think the right has got the upper hand now going into this general election. And I`m looking at these numbers --

CORN: But they always -- they always did.

MATTHEWS: They have the upper hand. Your thoughts.

Wow! Matthews now thinks Paul and Toomey are going to win. But it gets better:

MICHELLE BERNARD, MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST: But if you look at the people who have been basically sent running from the Republican Party this year, we`ve got Crist, Arlen Specter, Lisa Murkowski -- there is definitely a lot of dissension within the Republican Party, and, quote-unquote, "establishment people," could literally see themselves completely knocked out of Republican politics by the time we get to 2012.

CORN: But at the same time -- but at the same --

MATTHEWS: So, the establishment lost every one of these races, they`re at the bottom of the league. The people that are winning are all the challengers. And I just -- every night it happens, I say, this can`t happen. Castle can`t lose. Specter can`t lose. They all lose.

The establishment of the politics of America is playing defense now and they`re losing.

CORN: The Republican establishment -- all those Republicans who are beaten, most of them would probably have done very well in general election. What we`re worrying about now, what some people are worrying about is that -- is that Castle would have done better than Christine O`Donnell.

I mean, Murkowski would have an easy walk to re-election, right? Joe Miller probably will win, but he has a smaller chance of winning, at least that`s the constitution wisdom at the moment.

MATTHEWS: I take O`Donnell. How many points are you going to give me?

CORN: How many points will I give you?

MATTHEWS: Yes, how many you give. Because you keep acting like this is all over, that she`s going to lose.

CORN: No, but I don`t believe it`s all over.

MATTHEWS: Right.

CORN: But I do believe that the Republicans have this internal split --

MATTHEWS: OK. OK. I get back to this.

CORN: -- that they still haven`t dealt with.

MATTHEWS: I can`t see the Republican convention meeting, wherever they`re going to meet, in Tampa, right? They`re down there and they`re thundering in there with delegates, one of these Tea Partiers after another, storming the gates, all excited about they`re going to get rid of the 14th Amendment, get rid of, what, the 17th Amendment, energize the 10th Amendment, love the Second Amendment, and then they go pick Romney, Tim Pawlenty.

CORN: But who`s the Tea Party candidate?

MATTHEWS: I don`t see how it happens.

CORN: But who`s the Tea Party candidate? Sarah Palin? Who else?

MATTHEWS: Yes.

CORN: Well, what if she doesn`t run?

MATTHEWS: Well, I don`t know what happens.

CORN: What happens to them?

MATTHEWS: I don`t see what -- I`m asking the question.

BERNARD: I don`t -- I don`t think this is the death now for, quote- unquote, "establishment people," like Mitt Romney. He`s a good guy. I think -- we just don`t know. I know you think it`s funny --

(CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: I think you like establishment-type Republicans.

BERNARD: I do.

CORN: He also knows -- he knows how to change his skin. He already sent money to Christine O`Donnell.

BERNARD: But he`s also never going to campaign like Christine O`Donnell. We are never going to see that type of a flip-flop, I hope, from Mitt Romney or others, I hope.

(CROSSTALK)

BERNARD: We`re not going to see someone like Christine O`Donnell --

MATTHEWS: -- abortion rights.

CORN: These guys run the way they run and then they look to the vice president to sort of send that message.

BERNARD: We will not see a Christine O`Donnell on the Republican ticket in 2012.

(CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: The tea point is boiling and steaming and it`s going to make that whistle sound when it`s ready to coffee.

BERNARD: Absolutely.

MATTHEWS: The whistle is making that sound.

(CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: You try to put a lid on that (INAUDIBLE).

In the final segment of "Hardball," Matthews really drove this point home:

MATTHEWS: Let me finish tonight with a question. Just where do you think this explosion of voter anger we saw last night in Delaware and have seen growing in voters in Pennsylvania, Florida, Utah, Nevada, Kentucky, Colorado and in just about every poll across the country is going to take us?

Last night, as the dust began to clear, I heard progressive glee that the anger was on the verge of burning itself out, that the victory of Christine O`Donnell in Delaware like that of Sharron Angle in Nevada, was throwing away the election. How could voters in the general election go so far as to elect one of these candidates the angry primary voters have kicked up?

I supposed I had my eyes on something different. While others were seeing dead people, the defeated Mike Castle, who was supposed to be strong this November, I saw the strength of the flames that consumed him and will consume many others this rapidly approaching election night. I have waited all my adult life for an election in which voters have the fire to reach up and burn those who have been running the show for decades. But I didn`t know it would come from the right and center.


2010 could be the first year in modern times when being in office in Washington and part of Washington is the worst possible credential when facing voters. I don`t know how far the fire will burn. Based upon last night`s returns, I expect it has a long way to go. It could topple the House and, yes, the U.S. Senate. It could bring the defeat of people who feel even now they are not endangered. It could produce an election night spectacle of name brand politicians standing before stance supporters saying their careers are kaput.

Why is this happening? Because this economic system is failing to produce the security and opportunity people have come to expect in this country. In this middle-class country, the middle class are scared and when people are scared, they get angry. They sense a rot at the top and are ready to chop it off.

If the plan of those in power to raise a ton of cash and run nasty TV ads saying you can`t vote for this new person, that he or she is flawed -- I expect the voter will say, "Are you telling me I have no choice but to vote for you? Are you saying that I, this little voter out there, dare not take a chance on someone who has not yet let me down as you have? If that is what you`re telling me, that I have no choice, well, Mr. Big Stuff, you just have to wait -- stay up late election night and see what I have done."

Read more: newsbusters.org



To: MrLucky who wrote (383099)9/17/2010 11:27:43 PM
From: Nadine Carroll2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794102
 
I think Rove thinks that O'Donnell is flaky, the kind of candidate you are better off without because she's a time bomb; any moment the scandal could occur and of course the media will be gunning for her.

Krauthammer has been long in the beltway and he has a very analytical approach. Palin's appeal is emotional, aesthetic, charismatic; not Charles' cup of tea. He's catching on slowly.

I think Rove and Krauthammer will both be happy to acknowledge they were wrong if O'Donnell wins.



To: MrLucky who wrote (383099)9/18/2010 3:55:27 PM
From: greenspirit3 Recommendations  Respond to of 794102
 
What every pundit missed in the drumbeat to castigate O'donnel was the message. Talk about everything under the sun except the differences between ideas.

breitbart.tv