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To: Alighieri who wrote (586654)9/21/2010 9:48:21 AM
From: bentway  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 1575173
 
I think that there's a point to be made for some permanent government jobs programs that would be available for the unemployed when unemployment terminated, say at the end of six months.

I don't like permanent unemployment either. Not makework, but stuff like say, needed infrastructure repair/replacement.

Ten seems to think drawing unemployment consists of applying, then putting your feet up on the couch and waiting for the checks while you watch Oprah!

As a person who DREW unemployment for two weeks, I can tell you that you HAVE to apply for a certain number of jobs every week (they check). These have to be jobs you are qualified for, and could actually get. You have to RE-apply for unemployment EVERY week, miss dotting an "i" or crossing a "t", and you get no check that week! It's no fun at all. This was in CA.

Once I got a job, they wanted the money BACK, claiming I hadn't been unemployed long enough to deserve the money!

The entire experience had me never applying for unemployment again, although there were three times when I was eligible.



To: Alighieri who wrote (586654)9/21/2010 10:07:20 AM
From: i-node1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575173
 
There are people out there who are probably just content to live off the unemployment $$, but that's not a case for abandoning the majority of folks

You don't even begin to understand the issue. It isn't about people abusing the system (which is another problem).

It is about the public policy implications of paying people not to work, which encourages the wrong kind of behavior. On any given day the number of people who are abusing the payments may be small; but as a matter of public policy it is untenable to pay people not to work.

Nobody I know of has a problem with providing 13 weeks of unemployment benefits. Maybe even 26 weeks in a severe economic downturn, to the extent it can be funded out of existing programs.

We are now providing 99 weeks (TWO YEARS), and [surprise] they want more. Of course they want more. Because unemployment is a way of life.



To: Alighieri who wrote (586654)9/21/2010 10:09:26 AM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575173
 
>The problem with populist arguments is that it cynically feeds at the edges of popular resentment but ignores the true essence of the issues.

Of course. The same way that people get more riled up at the idea of welfare fraud (which is a really small problem) then they do about white collar crime (which is much, much more consequential).

-Z