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To: Greg or e who wrote (9248)	10/13/2010 9:07:15 PM
From: Solon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

"I don't know your parents were probably decent people and look how you turned out?" Why don't you simply skip past questions you can't answer? There is no need for your childish ad hominem responses. They waste time for everyone. "you think that getting drunk is the moral equivalent to committing rape" That is not what I said, is it?? I clearly acknowledged there was a biblical version that the rape was committed by the kids over two consecutive nights. And I clearly asked you for an opinion on how we ought to consider the moral qualities of the father who apparently got drunk with his daughters during those two rapes. I asked you if this father (who had previously offered his daughters to be gang raped) was a Righteous and Just father: "If they did not FORCE him to drink himself into a stupor--then how do you whitewash his part in this terrible incest and rape? Leave aside your personal attacks and your childish reactions for the moment (if you can). This is about a substantial character in the bible. Do you think he was a just and righteous father? Or do you think he was a criminal?? These are questions that all people seeking an honest faith in a prominent religion would need to ask themselves. Is Lot blameless for this incest and repeated rape over 48 hours of debauchery--or is he merely misunderstood??" ____________________________ The text makes it abundantly clear that Lot had no idea what was going on" How was his mental condition the day before and the day after? If someone in your neighborhood today tried to evade justice by claiming that his daughters had drank wine with him on TWO CONSECUTIVE nights and raped him on both of those nights--but he was unaware that he was having incest with them at the time...would you defend him like you defend Lot?? Would you put the blame on the two kids and absolve the adult/father? I think the question is extremely pertinent. I think you owe this thread an answer after all your moralizing and crowing. Let us wait and see if your response is sincere and honest--or if it is just a vicious spewing of hatred...such as we have become accustomed to from you. Waiting...

To: Greg or e who wrote (9248)	10/13/2010 9:29:55 PM
From: Solon	Respond to of 69300

"...Lot had no idea what was going on" At what point during his drinking sessions with his two daughters on two consecutive nights prior to the two consecutive rapes committed (according to Genesis) by his two daughters, did Lot stop knowing what was going on??? Did he know he was getting drunk with his kids?? Did he know he was setting a bad example...LOL!!

To: Greg or e who wrote (9248)	10/14/2010 12:49:50 AM
From: Solon	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

"...Lot had no idea what was going on" At what point during his drinking sessions with his two daughters on two consecutive nights prior to the two consecutive rapes committed (according to Genesis) by his two daughters, did Lot stop knowing what was going on??? Did he know he was getting drunk with his kids?? Was there a point over ten or twenty drinks of wine (before he went into his coma) where he could have stopped getting plastered in front of his kids? Even prior to the incest, is there anything admirable about this fellows behavior as a father or as a human being?? Do you really believe they raped their father two nights in a row and he had no involvement in the process while they were all getting plastered???? Do you think someone who told that story to a jury of 12 decent human beings would be absolved from the incest?? Do you think a jury of decent human beings would believe him when he claimed his kids raped him for two consecutive nights and he knew nothing about it?? What do you see as "Just" and "Righteous" about this sorry excuse for a father?? And how about when he offered them to be raped by the men of Sodom?? Is that praiseworthy behavior?? What planet are you from??