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To: micromike who wrote (14025)	11/10/1997 10:38:00 PM
From: XiaoYao	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 24154

Your beloved MS-Killer/Corel-Abandoned Java: "Developers Express Widespread Dissatisfaction With Java" Two-Thirds of Java Developers Losing Faith in 'Write Once, Run Anywhere' biz.yahoo.com --- ''You can't do large projects; it just doesn't work right. This has restricted us to doing only small applications with Java. Because corel has withdrawn its support of Java, this makes me think that Java is really doing badly, since Corel is so big. We've pulled back on our plans to use Java.'' -- Development manager at a major industrial firm --- ''We have incompatibilities between different virtual machines. What works on one doesn't work on another. Unfortunately, it is controlled by Sun at this point. They are in no way a standards body.'' -- Stephen Miller, software developer, V-Systems --- ''Java is proprietary, controlled by Sun Microsystems. As long as it's controlled by a single entity it will never be an industry standard. SunSoft wants me to license Java from them; nothing is open when they have intellectual property rights. By Sun trying to control the market through restrictive licensing agreements, they have made Java migrate toward proprietary instead of open solutions. The promise of Java is a lie: It doesn't run cross platform. Even in the same tool kit there are incompatibilities. Java reinvents itself every three months; we don't waste time on moving targets.'' -- Jeff Merkey, CEO, Timpanagos Research Group --- ''We have to test over and over again on each machine and platform because Java doesn't work the same from one platform to another.'' -- John Meier, chief operations technician, Freshwater Software --- ''Sun cannot control Java and at the same time want it to be an open standards-based language. Java purports to be standard cross platform language and it's not. Java is not 'write once, run anywhere,' it's 'write once, debug everywhere.' There are no common tools to create a standard interface, and you cannot exploit the characteristics of a particular operating system with the middle layer present.'' -- Bill Kennedy, senior consultant, Minerva Technology, Inc. --- That's the real "Vapourware". Dan also posted some other unsatisfied Java user's response and JavaSoft's Strong-Arm practise to those small companies on other thread. Dan, why don't you post it here also? YuanQing,