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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (276657)	10/21/2010 3:10:39 PM
From: Sdgla	4 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

there is no such thing as a single Arab nation and the Pals were not citizens of any of the waring parties. You are ignoring the fact the 7 Arab nations attacked and lost. The Pals are being used as pawns... that doesnt take away the fact they did take up arms with their brethren to destroy the Israeli's nor the fact they willingly allow themselves to be used... to their obvious detriment. The moral fallacy in your argument is the implicit "to the victor goes the loot." What other way to resolve the issue at hand is there ? The Arab nations refuse to even acknowledge the right to exist for Israel and you use your feel good lefty argument that Israel is the aggressor and and therefore is in the wrong. Israel has successfully defended herself. What would you be saying had the intended genocide been carried out ? Would it be that might won the day ? Save the "morality" and the "law of the jungle" argument for your lefty sympathizers. Those only hold water when dealing with rational human beings.... not those who breed children and build explosive belts for them at the same time. Your logic here escapes me. Following this line of reasoning, Hitler was right about the Jews who left Germany? Personally I think those Jews were every bit as German as the rest of the country. I have no problem with your lack of understanding.... it is your problem not mine. You have no evidence that the Jews who returned to Israel were the direct descendants of those who left. Sure I do. You have the ability to research that info... you just either wont or are not willing to accept that data. Why should America be their protector? This shows your complete lack of understanding of what America stands for. It is good vs evil. America and Israel are allies and the same fanatics that want the destruction of Israel wish the same fate for the USA. America provides Israel the tools to survive against those same factions that want death to both nations. You get to choose a side and you also get to vote for the party of your choice... so far each and every party has chosen to back Israel. I do not wonder why... but obviously you do. The mythology of Israel about a reawakening of a lost nation and returning after 2000 years is a misrepresentation at best. Most Jews had no desire to be living in Israel but were forced there by the Zionists. Having first hand knowledge {of which you clearly have none} of both the holocaust and people living in and having immigrated to Israel, my reply to you is your statement is complete Bullshit. It was not a smart choice. There were better places that could have proved less problematic. Clearly Baja California would have been a better place politically speaking.... but only for those that choose to ignore the biblical callings that are in play. To ignore them is to ignore how Israel came to be. No small feat.. dont you agree ST? Regardless of where the Jews were to settle in, the smart and moral thing to do was to build an integrated society. Should you ever choose to visit Israel you will find her to be an integrated society. It might not be the integrated model you would use for your perfect European country... but it is integrated nonetheless. If there is a another holocaust, it will be to a big extent due to Israel's conduct. ST.. there's a holocaust going on in Darfur as I type this... somewhere north of 6 million have been butchered by fanatics.. Is that Israels fault ? Curious why so much attention is focused on the tiny Jewish nation rather than Darfur, where death and destruction are the norm everyday. Your concentrated Jewish argument is amusing. I'm sure you are aware the global Jewish population outside of Israel so I will leave it at that. Israel is not lacking in the ability to defend herself.. dont you agree ? So why not move on to how to stop the holocaust the Muslims are carrying out in the other parts of the world and focus on stopping that. S