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To: Mac Con Ulaidh who wrote (84866)	11/5/2010 10:44:30 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

I'm waiting to see how that works out. The dems here have been little more than various political machines under the D but not functioning together. What has their 136 years of control gotten us? And keep in mind that they started out Democrat as a reaction to those bad Lincoln Republicans... though with the change in attitudes of Dems one way and Repubs the other, things switched... on the state level, except for black Alabama democrats and our few progressives, it is what it is. Lot of currupt Repubs, also (note our various govenors convicted of things under both banners), but the social issue talk was as muted as I've ever heard it here and the new Gov actually talks like he wants to get something done. He has already said that Riley's insane quixotic quest with the Gambling Task Force is going to be ended - and that's a big nod to democrats here (the good ones) and to the black community where a lot of those jobs are. I suspect there is something very broken about a system that takes 136 years to switch from one party to the next esp. considering that the state as a whole has been voting mostly R for the past 30-40 years. It seems your culture is very different from mine so its hard to psych out why it is the way it is. It would be nice if R control changes things but frankly, I am not holding my breath.

To: Mac Con Ulaidh who wrote (84866)	11/5/2010 11:54:21 AM
From: one_less	Respond to of 149317

Most political corruption is a function of social influence, group think pressure, and the frailty of human character. In modern times it is exercised more often by what a person in power allows under their watch, rather than by personal actions committed by the politician. This has been learned by centuries of watching how organized crime bosses are able to avoid incrimination and has become so endemic in the system as to be nearly unavoidable for politicians even in the best of circumstances. Washington liked to warn us of the dangers inherent in the two party system. This system cannot help but divide people along geographic lines and in making distinctions of human passion which are often expressed as partisan dogma so insidious as to stifle the individual human consciousness of the party faithful.