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To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (59244)11/13/2010 6:47:51 PM
From: kidl  Respond to of 233807
 
Thanks TBS. Great article
Food ... A topic which deserves much more attention than it's getting right now and that is aside from AMZ. LOL



To: Cogito Ergo Sum who wrote (59244)11/14/2010 2:44:52 PM
From: Sexton O Blake1 Recommendation  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 233807
 
I have seen an uptick of not normal food products at the grocery store touting "Made in China". (not to be confused with my Star Wars toys of the late 70's that say "Made in Hong Kong". And curiously in the movie Fatal Attraction Alex says to Dan "Is that made in Taiwan?" I suppose Taiwan was the umbrella capital of the world at one point.)

Normal as in Chinese exports like say sauces; seafood or asian dishes

Recently we bot a Fruit Snack by Florida's Natural. We saw that brand in the US but who knew they had China make the snacks. Further Europe's Best Frozen Spinach is likewise from China. (China is the new Europe now??).

Last year was the first that I saw a lot of "Halloween Treats" from China.

In Canada Loblaw had bad press when they neglected to say the place of origin for their products. Now most of their products will say Product of ... Their No Name pickles are from India. Now who knows that that means - pickled and bottled in India? Or the pickles are from India and shipped to Canada? Either way, after all that there is still money to be made.

But as with Loblaw - what US companies likewise are getting things made abroad but not saying where they are sourced from?

Hammers, curtain shower liners and batteries for a dollar are one thing, but food is another.

I am bothered with the minimum guidelines that companies need to follow here by Health Canada and the FDA - that aren't followed there (or outside of CA/US). I am not going to get into debates on "are they doing their job" or "are companies following this or that".

As per this:
More recently, however, signs hint at a restoration of the law of scarcity, mostly in the form of rising commodity and input prices, more expensive labor, restrictions on land developments, and a reversal of China’s pro-export policies. Various hidden costs of China’s seemingly miraculous growth also are beginning to emerge, including dangerous chemical residues on food and related food safety problems, falling groundwater tables, polluted water, and overall environmental degradation.

That is what I perceive and what troubles me most. I have no clue - how far are these massive industrial centers from the agriculture? If you told me all industrial was in Newfoundland and all agriculture was in BC - then I might have a different POV as to the quality of the products. I think Fuji apples are one of the best apple in flavor - yet I cannot bring myself to buy them. I figure they are laced with industrial chemicals. Period. Probably need a 20/20 or W-9 to ferret this out.

I saw a news report showing how mold was embedded in drywall - the material they were making the drywall was garbage.

If they cannot responsibly make products that are safe for people (toys/drywall etc) to use - how safe do you think I feel EATING a product from there? Seriously?

And any argument that says "1.3 Billion have to eat it - it must be safe" is flawed logic.

No question on a whole I need to be concerned with everything consumed regardless of whether it is a chicken from Canada or a shellfish from Thailand.

However, I will leave you with one unrelated comment - I owned a NEC monitor back in the 90s and had to take it for servicing in Mississauga. They had chitload of monitors onsite being fixed. I said to the guy "how often do these fail?" and he replied "there are a lot of failures but then again there are a huge amount of monitors". So yeah it is inevitable that as the China agriculture business gets larger, we will start seeing more from China - and certainly we have to consider that there are bad apples and good apples. Not every company is Foxconn with nets hanging from their building to stop the jumpers.

As the closing part stated - things have to improve. Standards need to be developed and enforced but also the government suppressing things does not help.

Part serious problems and part P/R.

blake