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To: TobagoJack who wrote (68414)	11/20/2010 3:22:56 PM
From: Maurice Winn	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217931

Seceding would demonstrate freedom. As long as you comply with Mummy's rules, you are "free". Democracy as it is run has little to do with freedom. The USA had elections which voted to keep Negroes as slaves. They [those allowed to voite] voted that slavery was poor form in 1865: usconstitution.net Right now, they vote that people shall be citizen-serfs. That's a modified form of slavery and property confiscation. Such "freedom" includes the right to be conscripted by press gangs and forced into the army to kill or be killed. On the scale of political freedom, non-voting Hong Kong citizens and residents are higher on the scale than voting citizen-serfs of democracies. That's like being a House Nigger. It beats being beaten in the cotton fields. But it's still slavery. Mqurice PS: South Carolina was not allowed to secede. Freedom in the Land of the Free is circumscribed: <South Carolina voted to secede from the United States as a result of Abraham Lincoln's election to the Presidency. Lincoln had, over time, voiced strong objections to slavery, and his incoming administration was viewed as a threat to the right of the states to keep their institutions, particularly that of slavery, the business of the states. More states seceded, eleven in all, forming the Confederate States of America. The secession movement led to the Civil War. In the waning days of the war, which ran from 1861 to 1865, the Congress approved an amendment to abolish slavery in all of the United States. Once the CSA was defeated, approval of the 13th Amendment was quick in the Northern states. By the end of 1865, eight of the eleven Confederate states had also ratified it. Proposed on January 31, 1865, it was ratified on December 6, 1865 (309 days). Eventually, all of the CSA states except Mississippi ratified the 13th after the war; Mississippi ratified the amendment in 1995. >

To: TobagoJack who wrote (68414)	11/20/2010 3:51:39 PM
From: Hawkmoon	9 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217931

Take team USA actions in destroying it's middle class as example, does the middle class have capability n capacity to exercise any freedom to escape the depravity? Take Team Bejing, indifferent to the massive losses of life that occur each year in Chinese Mines.. All because the Chinese government won't implement the most basic of safety measures. China's mines are the deadliest in the world, with more than 2,600 people killed in coal mine accidents in 2009 alone. The country's lax safety rules and enormous demand for coal to power its economy have contributed to high casualties. cbc.ca According to one source, in 2003 China accounted for the largest number of coal-mining fatalities, accounting for about 80% of the world’s total, although it produced only 35% of the world’s coal. en.wikipedia.org So you build all your "Ivory Towers" there in HK, Shanghai, and Bejing, all powered by poor Chinese peasants who are nothing more than economic pawns who die for your benefit. I can understand having them use picks and shovels so you can maximize the employment factor. But mine safety is mine safety.. Ventilation, and dust reduction, are technologies that are indispensable for preventing the numerous mine disasters that occur in China. If you had a TRULY FREE PRESS, the outrage would be nationwide. But since most mines are government owned, no one dares to be critical and accuse the government leadership of being so corrupt that they sacrifice human life UNECESSARILY merely to generate greater profit. I have never desired the right to vote, and frankly I do not wish to have other folks vote out of ignorance You seem to have this inane belief that a non-democratic society is less corrupt, or that it's more efficient, than a democratic society. The only difference is that in a TRULY democratic society the pervasive corruption that occurs everyday has a more difficult time hiding their crimes from the public. In China the leaders ARE the criminals (with a few, rare, exceptions, and those soon come under the thumb of the criminals). Hawk

To: TobagoJack who wrote (68414)	11/21/2010 2:20:09 AM
From: elmatador	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 217931

Middle class was destroyed already. Today's middle class is an artificial middle class running on debt. It was the industrial mighty that took European peasants and raised them to middle class, creating a power nation. The middle class without competition gorged in money. example: GM history in the second half of the 20th century is a story of executive arrogance, missed opportunities, poor decision-making and reckless finance. After WW2, everyone was making money hand-over-fist, and GM became known as “Generous Motors.” Starting in the mid-1950s, rather than risk a strike that could slow production and sales, GM chose to kick the can down the road. When it came to wages, and benefits, the execs made the union contracts, guaranteed pension benefits, health care costs someone in the future’s problem. Then the future arrived. roubini.com Industry after industry lost competitiveness to Japanese and Euriopeans. As industry after industry could not compete, the US used the only industry they could not export -weaponry-and used it to keep an edge. That industry needed a constant conflict and bellicose approach to everything to keep itself alive. Young people trying to keep themselves middle class, engaged in MBA programs and went straight to finance. Advocate industry migration to keep some few bits in the US. Intangibles, Good will, New economy. The whole thing become artificial. Until now... Time to face reality The US committed suicide.