To: Maurice Winn who wrote (68429 ) 11/20/2010 7:29:41 PM From: TobagoJack 3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217917 maurice, sadly, you do not know what freedom is, and is not. starting from your premise that the individual freely choosing for the collective good is a plus, and ending with contention that economic freedom guarantees all freedoms, i note (i) hk does not charge tax at the individual / company level against the following sorts of incomes: - on/off-shore interest - on/of-shore dividends - on/off-shore capital gains - on/off-shore gambling winnings - off-shore services income, and - off-shore income from sales of off-shore-sourced goods (ii) hk does charge a flat tax on two types of income: - on-shore salary - on-shore sales of goods and services, meaning (iii) for anyone and everyone in hk, we make a choice on how we structure any and all businesses of ours, and do so per function of how much we wish to donate to the public good, and we do donate, but of free choice. for example, for the fellowette operating a factory in shenzhen and supplying to markets in usa and europe, she must decide how much she wishes to donate to shenzhen, hong kong, manhattan, and paris, and how much she keeps away from grasping governments and wastrel electorates and for her own expenses, she can pay herself hk$1 per annum in salary, and take down hk$ xx,xxx,xxx.xx in dividends. now, my figuring per your contention and my premise, hk is economically free, and that means hk is, effectively, absolutely free. all other freedoms are simply and just lesser, and for anyone to disagree, merely shows (i) abject ignorance, and (ii) absolute un-thinking. as to taiwan expresses independence? which part of taiwan, do they have enough votes? no? too bad. independence is freedom? of course not. new zealand is independent, but is it free? do you decide how much tax you pay to independent new zealand? or does independent new zealand decide for you? cheers, not independent, do not wish to be independent, but very much free, yours, tj p.s. here attached is another sort of 'freedom', just in in-trayWhy does this sound / feel like late in the Roman Empire?proof-proofpositive.blogspot.com p.p.s. question: do you really know what true freedom is? quote: "they hate us for our freedoms" ... too funny