To: carranza2 who wrote (69617 ) 12/14/2010 2:11:59 PM From: Maurice Winn 4 Recommendations Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 217918 If there was no oxygen in Mexico, the drug wars would not be taking place too. If there were no bullet manufacturers there would be no shooting. If there were no cars or roads, they would not be doing drive by shootings. C2, I know it's a very difficult concept and the majority of humans can't understand it, but there is something called free will. It's the idea that humans are volitional beings who choose their actions. <if Mexicans are shooting each other, it's nothing to do with the people buying whatever it is they are buying? That statement makes me wonder the following: what exactly have you been smoking, Mq? If the demand for drugs were non-existent in the US, the drug wars in Mexico would not be taking place. > The fact that some Americans buy dope and cocaine etc doesn't make me inclined to go out and shoot somebody. Whether the drugs are illegal or legal doesn't affect my propensity to kill. Do you feel the urge to kill somebody because there are laws about drugs and people want to buy them? Those people who want to shoot somebody in Mexico are choosing to do so. Blaming a dopey stoned guy in San Francisco is about as absurd as it gets. It seems simple that people can take responsibility for their actions. Those smoking choose to smoke. Those who shoot choose to shoot. Those who offer no resistance to those who choose to be criminals can expect to have criminals as bosses. Whole countries have been run by criminals and often are, absolute power corrupting absolutely and all that. In NZ, we have spent decades producing and rewarding criminals, so guess what we have more of these days. Mexico is ahead of us, but we are in the race to the bottom. radionz.co.nz If those two young men were turned into organ donors, parts sold to the highest bidders, their value would go from negative to $millions. The policeman could have a lifelong good pension. Half a dozen organ recipients would live instead of dying. Others such as cornea transplant recipients would have improved quality of life. Some doctors would enjoy excellent profits. New Zealand could earn some foreign exchange [as bidders would no doubt come from far and wide]. Taxpayers would save on prison costs and future benefit payments to them. There would be a negative effect though - the number of organ donors would dry up rapidly because young men would think twice about attacking other people. Some would say that's a good thing. Future victims for example. Mqurice