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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (69624)12/14/2010 2:28:57 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Respond to of 217927
 
but there is something called free will. problem with that is it take so few bad guys to mess stuff up..

Estimates are something like 80% of alcohol at beer outlets in Toronto is purchased by about 10% of the population :O) So the number of drunk drivers is from a small sample... yet they wreak much havoc and cause insurance rates to skyrocket...



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (69624)12/14/2010 2:41:33 PM
From: carranza24 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217927
 
No, Mq, I understand free will better than most.

I also understand that many in the exercise of free will may well exercise it in a way that maximizes profit.

If you are Mexican, poor and uneducated but burning with ambition, you might well exercise your free will in a manner that maximizes your earnings. In lots of cases that means the drug trade because it is not particularly difficult to get into, is largely untaxed and has a huge and profitable tax flow.

This theoretical Mexican's free will could not be exercised in this nefarious direction in the absence of a market, i.e., your Sunday afternoon pot smoker who has exercised his own free will but has no clue that getting the stuff to him has resulted in untold death and destruction.

Now, if the Sunday smoker didn't exercise his free will to smoke, or snort or inject or whatever, the little ambitious guy in Mexico who is killing, corrupting and destroying in order to supply the worthless Sunday afternoon lollygag would not have much to do, would he?

There is a true meshing of two sets of volitions, demand and supply. One cannot exist without the other.

Inject social costs into the equation and The Big Balance Of Things definitely tips my way. Observed in a vacuum, as you do, the myopic view is that the lotus eating lollygag idiot in San Francisco is not doing much harm by smoking or snorting away. He probably hurts himself mostly. Who cares? If that were all that's involved, I'd say, go ahead, my life is easier when others destroy their neurons.

But when the costs to the people affected by the supplier's free volitional actions, which are deadly, disruptive, corrupting and very, very damaging even, as I posit, eventually doing harm to our national security, then my Big Balance of Things tips heavily my way, leaving your arguments eating dust.

But I am not going to change your mind. So let's agree to disagree.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (69624)12/15/2010 7:14:12 AM
From: dvdw©  Respond to of 217927
 
a bingo moment.

The problem under the supreme Law of the Variable time shapes of capital are that the illegal drug trade constitutes a malinvestment of capital. In diverting capital into the hands of the less productive camps, where capitals worth, is diminished by its failing imagination of its true and proper use.

Good mexican men women and children vote with thier feet, as ambition to rise up from the overlords whose imaginations want for almost everything and deliver nothing.

Its circular malfeasance, enabled by oligarchy, whose cut is always assured.

Proper extrapolation might be along the lines of your tradable citizenships, ie welcome the mexican population into the country with open arms, elevate thier value within the melting pot, seek terms with the illegals which incentivize them in becoming more free to chose between mal invested incarnations and fully engaged incarnations whose degrees of freedom actually find contribution value to and within the Variables.

Borders change, when process recognition, moves away from self interest imposed as defense mechanism, to enlightened self interest as activated by the desire for a better utility within and around the great melting pot.

When the momentum for a better set of choices has been clarified, expectations of better outcomes from better choices will emerge. The order of appearance as Mexican Americans, or just further Southern, Americans, equals steps towards identity transparency.

Only then will time rightfully resume its mission to optimize its variables, and shape its outcomes along corrected trajectories. Counter programming what has become and is know as; oligarchic malfeasance.