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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: lorne who wrote (100415)	2/23/2011 8:38:10 AM
From: tonto	2 Recommendations Respond to of 224724

Spending in Wisconsin is out of control and has been done not for improving education, but instead, rewarding unions for supporting democrats in power. Two-thirds of the eighth graders in Wisconsin public schools cannot read proficiently according to the U.S. Department of Education, despite the fact that Wisconsin spends more per pupil in its public schools than any other state in the Midwest. In the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests administered by the U.S. Department of Education in 2009—the latest year available—only 32 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned a “proficient” rating while another 2 percent earned an “advanced” rating. The other 66 percent of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders earned ratings below “proficient,” including 44 percent who earned a rating of “basic” and 22 percent who earned a rating of “below basic.” The test also showed that the reading abilities of Wisconsin public-school eighth graders had not improved at all between 1998 and 2009 despite a significant inflation-adjusted increase in the amount of money Wisconsin public schools spent per pupil each year.

To: lorne who wrote (100415)	2/24/2011 9:13:18 AM
From: MJ	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224724

My first impression is are the students all English speaking-----are the illegals being counted into the results----if they are taught in our schools they likely do not speak English. To compensate for the vast numbers of Spanish speaking people schools are now teaching Spanish rather than English to public school children who are not of Spanish rather than teach English. My second impression is I would like to see the reading tests that are given to evaluate the students. The other observation is the population that is being measured---that feeds back to my first impression. Another question is are they being taught writing along with reading and spelling in public schools. If not they will not be able to read well---------they all are used together. And, lastly some children simply do not have innate intelligence to master skills that are beyond them------i.e. the Bell Curve usually applies in measuring any classroom, Sometimes there are simply people who can not achieve in the academic world in traditional education. Just a little ramble here, no time to edit mj

To: lorne who wrote (100415)	2/24/2011 10:14:39 AM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224724

So Wisconsin did better than the national average.