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To: elmatador who wrote (148319)	3/27/2011 8:58:50 AM
From: Bearcatbob	1 Recommendation Respond to of 206145

My what an impressive effort to make your point. I am impressed. Bob

To: elmatador who wrote (148319)	3/27/2011 10:34:47 AM
From: dvdw©	3 Recommendations Respond to of 206145

You say: All ideologies are dead and you use the term Marxist? You might be right, as the template of ideology has now been compacted into the other side of the same coin, under the broader definition of Oligarchic Malfeasance. Brazil as evidenced by structure has perfectly aligned to it. Entreprenuership with degrees of freedom operational are all but extinct in brazil....its just easier to enable the consolidation of everything into the hands of the entrenched, rich and powerful....same reult as communism, different headline. you can see the difference by understanding what is happening here in USA with unconventional oil drillers developing basins. For years, our own Oligarch oil companies, kept the Bakken and two dozen other basins off the map with thier soda straw metrics, then enterprise went in and tapped huge reserves, the peakists said didnt exist... PBR is the same, the world wide movement of capital to these unconventional methods, has turned the supply picture upside down....no doubt that the peak oilists are part of oligarchic hegemony....the capital markets have thier support lines in c=place to affect the changes in ownership of productive assets.... already active is the scenario depicted herein; The Greatest Crime in History (edit; aka... Too Corrupt to Remedy) Crime of the Century" Bud Burrell with Jim Puplava. netcastdaily.com just know this, the surveillance function, is outsourced to the highest ground.....where the relative safety of compartmentalist control units beliefs, have no clue about the mess their collusion is creating.... for themselves. The primary message is, when your in business and you depend on customers, when your habit is exposed, that you actually hate them that you need them only in service to you....the effects can be quite devastating when your customers decide they no longer want you.

To: elmatador who wrote (148319)	3/27/2011 2:02:32 PM
From: DewDiligence_on_SI	5 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206145

Re: VALE / PBR The Marxist label per se is irrelevant. The salient point is that Dilma wants these companies to pursue social goals as well as business goals. For shareholders, I think this is a relatively small risk with VALE (which I own) and a much larger risk with PBR (which I do not own). >As an investor you want the short term result. As government, you look for the whole picture and the long term.< I’m astonished that you said this. Each investor has his own time horizon for an investment to be successful; for you to speak for all investors as you did is both arrogant and misinformed.