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To: Katelew who wrote (419902)	4/4/2011 11:53:14 AM
From: longnshort	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793905

mayrantandrave.com “Secular” my ass! All of a sudden the beards are everywhere. The Muslim Brotherhood let the naive youth do the heavy lifting “for democracy” so the Brotherhood could then take control and build the next Iran. Muslim Brotherhood advocates Egyptian modesty police By DAVID E. MILLER / THE MEDIA LINE - 04/04/2011 Officials of the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s leading Islamic group, have called for the establishment of a Saudi-style modesty police to combat “immoral” behavior in public areas in what observers say in another sign of a growing Islamic self-confidence in the post-Mubarak era. In the political sphere, the Brotherhood led a successful drive to get voters to approve a package of constitutional amendments. On the street level, at least 20 attacks were perpetrated against the tombs of Muslim mystics (suffis), who are the subject of popular veneration but disparaged by Islamic fundamentalists, or salafis. After some initial hesitation, Islamic leaders have publicly praised the revolution. “This is incredibly worrying to many Egyptians,” Maye Kassem, a political scientist at the American University in Cairo (AUC), told The Media Line. “The salafis were always undercover in Egypt and now they are emerging as a political force. They are getting too vocal.” Newly freed from the political strictures of the Mubarak era, Egypt has turned into a battleground between those who envision a liberal, secular state and those who advocate various shades if Islam. The conflict mirrors those taking place elsewhere in the region. In Bahrain, unrest has evolved into a conflict between Sunni- and Shiite Muslims and the US has pulled back from supporting Libyan rebels over concerns they are dominated by Islamists. Issam Durbala, a member of the Brotherhood’s Shura council, told the Egyptian daily Al-Masri Al-Youm on Sunday, that he supported the establishment of a virtue police, or Hisbah, which had existed in medieval Islamic societies to oversee public virtue and modesty, mostly in the marketplace and other public gathering spaces. But he seemed to stop short of advocating a force along then lines of that which operates in Saudi Arabia today under the auspices of the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice. It enforces a dress code, separation of sexes and the observances of prayer times. “The new police must have a department with limited authorities to arrest those who commit immoral acts,” Durbala told the newspaper. Nevertheless, liberal, secular Egyptians, who led the protests that brought down President Hosni Mubarak and ushered in a new but as yet undefined era in Egypt, regard the proposal as the latest sign that Islamists are emerging as the dominant force in the country.

To: Katelew who wrote (419902)	4/4/2011 5:22:30 PM
From: steve harris	7 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793905

Words mean things. Obama's current Libya policy is to bow down before the Arab League and not remove Qdaffy from power. Obama just signed the death warrants for anyone opposing Qdaffy. Their blood is on Obama's hands. Obama says one thing to get your vote and does the opposite which you ignore. It's not just his ME policy, it's the man. He's a sorry human being with no scruples. Before Obama was elected, I tried and tried to get anyone supporting him to post what they expected him to try to do based upon what his campaign rhetoric. There was one taker and they no longer are with SI. Obama remains a community agitator. He stirs up a situation, backs away, then throws all in once he discerns what the winning position will be. I believe he is that simple, and that evil. He must be removed from office.

To: Katelew who wrote (419902)	4/4/2011 9:36:35 PM
From: greenspirit	5 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793905

People lie all the time too. I suppose we should just accept the fact that there is zero integrity in the world. After all, we can't expect one iota of it from the President, so why expect it from anyone else? People on SI lie, so why bother even posting? Why assume anything we say back and forth has any meaning? The same line of thinking "they all lie, so therefore a lie is ok", is the default position leftist supporters cling to when the one they voted for acts like every other Democratic politician. After all, lying about life and death decisions of war, is the same as lying about posting bills on the internet for Americans to read before being voted on. One big equivalence linkage. The point is Obama has lied about nearly every position he ran on to get elected, and his supporters still find excuses for him. Obama is making Bill Clinton look like a person of integrity in comparison. While Obama bows to Middle East Dictators and sends our brave young men and women to war when beckoned by oil Sheiks, most of America can see right through it and are counting the days to boot him out of office.