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To: kathtoo who wrote (420846)4/10/2011 4:38:34 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie7 Recommendations  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793839
 
Instead of making your views on the pro-life movement an attack on the Catholic Church, you might want to look at it from a more pragmatic point of view.

Where the Catholic Church certainly has had some serious ethical issues, that doesn't mean that all Catholics are morally lapsed (or at least, anymore morally lapsed than any other group of people).

If the pro-choice folks (of which I am one) want the attacks on the pro-choice movement to stop, simply cease expecting pro-life supporters to pay for abortions.

The argument of when a fetus becomes a baby isn't going to be resolved in our lifetime. But if someone believes that a fetus is a human at conception, it is morally bankrupt to force that person to force that person to support (financially or otherwise) abortion.

The best thing that the left could do at this point is to take that one big objection off the books. George Soros could fund planned parenthood and then the left could thumb their noses at the right and say "not your problem anymore, quitcher bitching".

Can you imagine the damage to society that would be done if Catholic sponsored hospitals were forced to perform abortions and instead decided to close their doors?

The left has pretty strong support from the Catholic Church nowadays, it would be suicide to push the abortion issue too much.

BTW: great piece of meaningless hypberbolic fiction here:
The church is a bit hypocritical when it rails on against abortion, tells a woman she must not use birth control, tells a woman she must not leave her husband (who spends all his time in the tavern drinking and not loving his wife as Christ loved the church), while the woman has child number 10 and is working her fingers to the bone, exhausted, taking in neighbors laundry to make ends meet, not to mention all her own cooking, cleaning, and washing, and so on. I was raised in a church with plenty of those women. No thanks.



To: kathtoo who wrote (420846)4/10/2011 5:52:41 PM
From: steve harris5 Recommendations  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793839
 
In your view, at what time do I throw an unborn child in the trash and it becomes murder?

And do tell me what happened, that only a week earlier, I can throw it in the trash can and it's not murder.

Is that high enough moral ground for you?