To: carranza2 who wrote (72967 ) 4/9/2011 1:16:59 PM From: Maurice Winn 1 Recommendation Respond to of 218639 As TJ says, gold's price is the distillation of all that is known, including known unknowns though not so much unknown unknowns, such as the sneaky Mq plans - and even those are known because I know them and therefore choose not to buy gold so gold sits there detecting me, cunning stuff that it is. I'm like a dark planet orbiting a gold star. You can't see me, but the star wobbles a little in response to my orbit around it. The gravitational field of gold extends to all corners of Earth and beyond. TJ is right and therefore, ipso facto, ultra vires, caveat emptor, infra vide, habeas corpus, inter alia, gold's price is precisely correct. And will be tomorrow too, whether it goes up or down. So he is wrong here: <He considers that gold is under-priced. A good, conservative present value is USD $3800. > Thanks for the link. I shall have a look. The correct price of gold is the cost of digging some more out of the ground or filtering it out of the ocean or [once I have my proton and neutron percolator tuned correctly] turning mercury into gold and maybe even lead. If I really get it cooking, I could turn lead into platinum by the simple expedient of flicking out just one more proton. The current mistake physicists make is to think of the four forces of the apocalypse as immutable and something to be overcome by applying stronger forces such as slamming a proton at close to the speed of light into something such as in the large hadron collider <This synchrotron is designed to collide opposing particle beams of either protons at an energy of 7 teraelectronvolts (7 TeV or 1.12 microjoules) per particle, or lead nuclei at an energy of 574 TeV (92.0 µJ) per nucleus.[1][2] > That's the Sonny Liston approach. Mine is more the Cassius Clay methodology - "Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, your hands can't hit what the eye can't see. " Incidentally the greatest battle Ali fought was one for freedom of individual against the depredations of the state: <He was arrested and found guilty on draft evasion charges, stripped of his boxing title, and his boxing license was suspended. He was not imprisoned, but did not fight again for nearly four years while his appeal worked its way up to the U.S. Supreme Court, where it was successful. > He was an early convert to the idea that citizens are not chattels for the disposal of those in power. Tradable Citizenship and VVV - I will move to that country when it exists. Mqurice