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To: donald sew who wrote (14424)	11/16/1997 12:29:00 PM
From: Area51	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

Good morning Don. Sounds like you need to get away from SI and enjoy your Sunday afternoon, and I think I'll do the same. I've always appreciated your posts to this thread. With only one exception that I can recall they were always well reasoned and insightfull. This hoopla has been blown all out of proportion by now. But I'm sure it's just a temporary aberration and some semblency of normalcy will reappear tommorow. Ike could probably care less if Tom paper trades or not (Personally I tend to trust people until they show they are untrustworthy or until they ask for money <gg>). As far as Tom's suggestion that Ike should try and repost previous posts where his advice has been somewhat off mark, I think that's ridiculous. I just wish SI would add a delete button, so one could get rid of those embarrasing posts after the fact (I could probably start with this one <ggg>). Seeya Garry

To: donald sew who wrote (14424)	11/16/1997 2:28:00 PM
From: C.N.S.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

Threaders, I had responded to Don on TSO. He wished to pursue it here and not on TSO. The first part is my initial comments to Don, the second part is Don's request on TSO to move it to Ideas and the third part is my intial response to Don on TSO. ----Start Part 1------ Dear Don, (i) I don't have any motives or any doubts about my integrity. (ii) I don't have any supporters or detractors. (iii) I don't support or detract anyone either. (iv) I am not insulting anyone's intelligence by posting on TSO. In fact, the same arguement was employed by Lisa about a couple of posts ago (about not wanting to post on Idea's on this issue) so I am not alone here (v)Also, I felt you really meant to not post here. I know you frequent TSO and wanted to specifically address you. Hence I posted there. That sounded reasonably logical to me. Now feel free to imply sinister motives to this and imply that I am cultist and so on and so forth. (vi) No, neither am I going to try and have the "last word" nor am I going to turn this into a vicious mud-slinging debate. I will respectfully hear you out if you have any clarifications. If anything makes me change my opinions, I will willingly admit that my previous set of opinions were founded on incomplete/unclarified facts. (vii) Though it does not bother me if people attack me, I genuinely wish to not hurt you or anyone else. I hope you understand where I am coming from and what I am trying to say. If you wish to take your time to respond to this, or if you wish to not respond at all, or if you wish that I shut up or if you wish to do this over e-mail, all you have to do is ask. Wishing you only the very best, Regards Shivu ------End Part 1------ ------Start Part 2---- C.N.S. I will respond to you on the IDEAS thread, but not in detail here. Unless you do not want me to respond so you can have the last word. So send me a note on the IDEAS thread. I do not wish to continue the discussion here as you wish. Please dont insult everyones intelligence by saying that you preferred to comment on the Tech Options thread since the air is so think in the IDEAS thread, you just want to bring the arguement here. So if you have any integrity then send me the note on the IDEAS thread so I can go into detail. I doubt you will since it does not fit in your motives. ------End Part 2------ ------Start Part 3----- Dear Don, I seldom post to you, and this is one of those rare times that I have chosen to specifically address you. You were intense in your post to Nayson (and you certainly were justied and I wish I could find that intensity when you addressing some others on similar issues), but a few points bother me : >>I DON'T NEED THIS CULT-LIKE ATMOSPHERE, and for me you are the main reason for my departure once this matter is over. Until IKE steps and advises otherwise, I will also have to assume that he is promoting such CULT-LIKE following.<< I think you are contradicting yourself when you say you don't like a cult-like atmosphere but expect Ike to intervene. Before I proceed further, I wish to clarify that - I don't like emotionalism - I fully supported Kevin's & Lisa's position in their previous situation with Ike and to a large extent, I support TT (as I posted earlier in both the threads) in his current situation with Ike. TSO is one of the only threads that I have followed on SI regularly and I am on other threads only occasionally. I chose to respond to you here and not on "ideas's" cause the air is too thick out there. Now that I am done with this preamble, I continue, >>Once I am finished with my comments with you, I will not longer post on this thread.<< >>for me you (??Nayson??) are the main reason for my departure once this matter is over<< This was a similar situation some time ago when you "accused" Ike of "attacking you" and feigned hurt and announced that you were not going to post there because of Ike. It was obvious to many that he did not in the least attack you & that you were "manipulating" "Ike's and Idea thread's bad reputation" to play a "victim". The real reason was that you preferred not to associate with Ike. Which, Sir, is no problem whatsoever - but why do you not come out and say so and instead indulge in all this tantrum-throwing ? You remained mum about the previous situation till this weekend, while in the meantime, scores of people on that thread had virtually "begged" you for forgiveness. Well, well !!!! I find a definite pattern to the people you choose to throw a tantrum at (Ike, Nancy Ho etc etc) and THAT, Lovely Lisa, is VERY SCAREY !!! Feel free to get "hurt" by this post and threaten to not post here or anywhere else etc etc. It doesn't bother me at all. But what does bother me is that I am sure Kevin, lisa, tt and other regulars on this thread enjoy your posts on this thread and will much rather miss me than you. So my request to you is, should you get mighy upset by this, consider me as one of "the ideas guys", vent your spleen at me, not at TSO. Regards and have a great weekend, Shivu ------End Part 3---------

To: donald sew who wrote (14424)	11/16/1997 4:17:00 PM
From: mozek	Respond to of 50167

Don, I for one found your INDEX UPDATES to be some of the most objective and accurate analyses of the overall market technicals. I'd still very much like to understand your formulas, but I understand that you have had difficulty trying to communicate them in the past. I've missed your updates for the past few days, and I hope you'll start posting them again on any thread. I also have greatly reduced my posting to this thread for my own reasons, but I was never part of the "in" crowd anyhow. Thanks, Mike

To: donald sew who wrote (14424)	11/16/1997 5:39:00 PM
From: Luis Sanchez	Respond to of 50167

Donald Sew Let me first say that I will be very sorry if in fact you do leave this thread. I realize the aggravation & frustration might not seem worth the effort, but please remember that there are many people out here that never post but that read and enjoy your TA posts, as I know I do. Your index updates have been VERY informative, and in fact fairly prescient in calling the recent market moves. Don't let the controversy rattle you, just ignore it, and continue to post as you always did. Thanks again for all your TA work and your insights into the market. And I hope that you will continue to share those insights in the future. Luis Sanchez