To: dan6 who wrote (76478 ) 7/17/2011 6:30:33 PM From: Maurice Winn 2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 218913 The sample is much bigger than 1. < I am only an "n of 1" (sample size), my guess is that there will be a phenomenon of post-urbanization, not of the post-apocalyptic kind that is most easily imagined, but where people like myself figure out that the good life is living out of the cities, like TJ in his French paradise. The early post-urbanizers will be people of advantage who can retire in such places or who have businesses in cities that they can live on. But I suspect over time, more and more people will figure out how to live relatively simple, comfortable lifestyles in rural places, nothing like the abject poverty that drives people to the cities in the first place. > The underlying cause is that thermodynamics means efficiency is much greater with economies of scale. That's just how physics works. A little power generator can never be as efficient as a huge one. A big diesel truck is much more efficient than a lot of little ones. A motorway beats a lot of little roads. Economies of scale, thermodynamics, shared costs all push for big cities and that's where the jobs are to run the big things so people go there to get the jobs and sell things and earn money and spend it. But now, with the fast and huge arrival of Cyberspace, there is no longer any need to be in the big smoke. With a fast internet connection, Geeks can be anywhere, and are. Just today I was discussing with a son in law how many of us depend for our livelihoods on Cyberspace. There are millions of us. It's the fastest growing community of interest in the world. It's becoming a country. With Cyberspace income, people can live anywhere and click to order food delivered by courier and get everything else done too. The digital divide is not closing, it's accelerating and will become a gulf. Like the difference between London, New York, Tokyo, Beijing and the cities of Africa and rural subsistence farming . The gap keeps on growing. The importance of economies of scale and thermodynamic efficiency are dwindling. Mqurice