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To: Alighieri who wrote (619871)	7/18/2011 10:32:04 AM
From: Sdgla	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576992

"We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our selection between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat in our drink, in our necessities and comforts, in our labors and in our amusements, for our callings and our creeds...our people.. must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live.. We have not time to think, no means of calling the mis-managers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow suffers. Our landholders, too...retaining indeed the title and stewardship of estates called theirs, but held really in trust for the treasury, must...be contented with penury, obscurity and exile.. private fortunes are destroyed by public as well as by private extravagance. This is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering... And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression." Thomas Jefferson

To: Alighieri who wrote (619871)	7/18/2011 10:58:05 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576992

>> Ambiguous and complex issues which represent a legal quagmire to the nation's courts are crystal clear to you. I wouldn't say it is crystal clear if one looks at the willingness of the courts to expand federal power over time. However, this one is just too much. There is no quagmire here. This is a relatively simple matter: Is there ANY LIMIT AT ALL on the power of the federal government. That's the question. For the Court to decide in favor of Obama, they will have to answer that question in the negative; the government has no restriction, whatsoever. We can have all manner of arguments about whether "action is inaction" and other legally intricate matters. But in the end, the Court is going to have to decide the bigger issue of whether there are limitations on government's power. If they can force you to buy a product you don't want and may not need, just by merely existing, there are no limitations whatsoever. While the Court isn't always convinced by slippery slope arguments, this one is so glaring and in your face that it is difficult to imagine a pro-Obama decision.