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To: DMaA who wrote (437716)	7/28/2011 5:25:51 PM
From: Elsewhere	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793824

Well, let them mount a stationary bike and generate their required electricity themselves with a dynamo. After some weeks their preferences might change.

To: DMaA who wrote (437716)	7/28/2011 5:26:01 PM
From: d[-_-]b	1 Recommendation Respond to of 793824

Injun tribes suing to stop everything as well: articles.latimes.com Native Americans sue U.S. over solar power plant in desert The Quechan tribe alleges that Tessera Solar's 709-megawatt project on 6,000 acres near El Centro could damage 'cultural and biological resources of significance.' November 04, 2010\|By Tiffany Hsu, Los Angeles Times A Native American tribe has filed a lawsuit against the federal government in an attempt to block construction of Tessera Solar's Imperial Valley solar power plant in the Sonoran Desert. The 709-megawatt solar farm, planned for more than 6,000 acres of public land near El Centro, wrapped up its approval process in October. tulsaworld.com Recent lawsuits pose a threat to half a dozen solar developments.By NOAKI SCHWARTZ & JASON DEAREN Associated Press Published: 2/28/2011 2:26 AM Last Modified: 2/28/2011 6:56 AM BLYTHE, Calif. - Native Americans are clashing with the federal government over plans to fast-track approval and construction of massive solar energy projects that the Indians fear will harm sacred and culturally significant sites in Western deserts. Recent lawsuits by two native groups pose a threat to half a dozen proposed solar developments that the Obama administration has identified as having high importance in its quest for more clean energy production. One suit already has halted work on a major solar farm in Southern California. Read more from this Tulsa World article at tulsaworld.com

To: DMaA who wrote (437716)	7/28/2011 10:24:10 PM
From: ManyMoose	6 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793824

About 20 years ago I did a lot of aerial photo interpretation for the Columbia Gorge National Scenic area. The scenic area rules dictated that people could not build certain types of barns or do certain types of logging or vegetation modification in an effort to sustain the natural beauty of the Gorge. Now I drive down the Gorge and before I get to the Scenic Area (which is no more scenic than the rest of the Gorge) I see hundreds of the wind generators. To me it looks unnatural, like a smallpox epidemic on the land. The alternative methods of electricity generation on the Columbia River do not look so ugly. That includes a coal fired generation plant and a number of hydroelectric dams. The nuclear plant (Trojan) has been shut down, but it wasn't as ugly as these windmills either.