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To: SmoothSail who wrote (9088)	8/6/2011 1:48:30 PM
From: SmoothSail	Respond to of 23934

Heard from JXM - he's okay. The trail is really steep so it took a little longer than he anticipated, but he finally made it to Grass Lake. Back to worrying. ;)

To: SmoothSail who wrote (9088)	8/6/2011 2:35:50 PM
From: arno	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23934

I spent a lifetime learning how to operate a camera and produce something that is decent enough to request payment. It's always been tough to make money in photography. It's one of the few skills and talents that everybody thinks they have. With the onset of the digital world it has became worse, because now the cost to entry is minimal. At least in the days of film, the cost of burning a 36 exp roll + processing = a chunk of change. Today you can take thousands of shots and edit with a button at no extra cost. Also, the ability to send and post at the speed of light along makes it even easier to believe "i'm a photographer". I spent 20+ years exploring large format B&W photography. I was of the mind set that not only did I have "see" what I wanted, but then I had to make the print. I loved my time in the darkroom. When digital was in it's infancy....film and darkroom were the only way to make exhibition grade prints. Silver gelatin ruled the B&W world and Cibachrome ruled the color side....and it was expensive. There was a talent involved.....digital upset the apple cart Trouble is, all the equipment in the world does not make you a good photographer. Yes, but that does not stop people from believing they are. This doesn't excuse or fully explain the reactions of Mr Big Rig. Being a family friend with all of the gear doesn't give him the right to be an ass. Rude is rude. But he probably thought he was omnipotent. Wedding photographers are going to have to find something else to differentiate themselves. The ubiquitous nature of digital photography has cheapened photography with some good and some bad consequences. When somebody sings well, the average person knows they can't. When somebody paints well, the average person knows they can't. When somebody creates fine furniture, the average person knows they can't.....therefore they are more inclined to open their wallet and buy something. With photography, to me, it's just seems people are reluctant to spend money on something they think they can do. With a cell phone and Adobe Elements...poof! They're photographers.

To: SmoothSail who wrote (9088)	8/6/2011 5:06:13 PM
From: FJB	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 23934

Travis Novitsky Image taken: Aug. 6, 2011 Location: Grand Portage, MN, USA Details: With all the buzz about the possibility of strong auroras on the night of August 5th/6th, I was disappointed as sunset rolled around to see our sky filled with clouds. I am always optimistic, however, and as the evening progressed I made 2 to 3 checks every hour to see if the sky was clearing. Sure enough, just before midnight, I noticed a break in the clouds and in that break I saw some nice auroras! I went out the door and headed to my favorite spot to photograph the display. For an hour and a half the sky was filled with dancing lights, some of the best I've ever seen in Northern Minnesota!

To: SmoothSail who wrote (9088)	8/7/2011 2:19:29 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 23934

Maybe you can talk with the bride and groom before the wedding about that situation. Ask them to have the wedding coordinator check to be sure you don't have people like that in your way... I'd tell the guy that wants to get the pictures from you for the video that he can buy copies of the ones he wants to use, or that he can use the ones the bride buys to give to him... I don't know how to make video's....but it does seem that could be another service you could offer the soon to be married couple...People could send their best shots to you if they want to be incorporated in the video.... Guys like you described sound like a former (thankfully) BIL of mine....He could be very funny sometimes, but most of the time, was just a crashing borish guy like you described.... Hope the hand and foot are doing better!