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To: Brumar89 who wrote (168084)8/6/2011 11:36:13 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 544061
 
I'm not an atheist so I can't speak for them. But when there is separation of church and state, I don't see why you wouldn't get how threatened minority folks would feel. Look at you feeling all threatened, and you are a member of the hugely dominant religion in this country. Try to use your imagining tricks, the ones you use to try to understand others, and try to figure out how you'd feel if you were in the tiny minority of atheists trying to raise a kid in a hugely religious country like the US. So again- you're totally cool with Wiccans and Muslims addressing your local middle school- I mean if the school board thinks it is appropriate? Just how committed are you to this governmental mash up with religion?

Since there are a lot of liberals in the country, and there are very small numbers of atheists and agnostics, lots of liberals are religious. It's just that they don't need to foist their religion on others.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (168084)8/7/2011 6:35:54 PM
From: Cogito  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 544061
 
>>I see forced "neutrality" that involves suppressing people's freedom to exercise their religion as oppressive. <<

So you feel that school administrators who are Christians should be free to offer Christian prayers at public school events, and that if they are not free to do so, then their rights to freely exercise their religion are being violated. Is that it?

And it's OK that's it's only the Christians who get to say their prayers in these public settings, because Christians are a majority in this country. The roughly 25% (and growing) of the people who are not Christians can just sit there and grin.

Well, if that doesn't run smack up against the First Amendment principal of separation I don't know what does.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (168084)8/8/2011 12:47:33 AM
From: average joe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 544061
 
Early Christians were willing to be fed to the lions to oppose the political powers of the day. No self-respecting Christian wants a state sanctioned or approved Christianity. That would oppose anything Christianity ever stood for. The best protection for Christianity is a complete separation of church and state, i.e. a secular federal government system.