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To: Holger Johannsen who wrote (5702)	11/18/1997 10:18:00 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Holger, Take heart that most computer literate Americans are quite familiar with the architecture of "Castle Wolfenstein". <VBG> Regards, Ron

To: Holger Johannsen who wrote (5702)	11/18/1997 11:00:00 AM
From: paul	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

" It is quite difficult to understand reality about NT because there is much hype created by MS" Microsoft promises a Mercedes (hats off to Holger! though im a Jeep man myself) but delivers a Yugo (the car, not the person). Meanwhile it claims that the Yugo has made the Mercedes obsolete even though no one has driven it except perhaps for a test drive around the block - well it starts and its so cheap! and it will improve over the years since they have so much money (makes you wonder why they didnt build a mercedes then in the first place). Sales of the Yugo are brisk due to the fact that people have to buy many of them to have backups and and you cant squeeze to many passengers inside of them (plus microsoft owns the distribution channels and relationships with the steel manufacturers choking off suplies to other manufacturers) - Microsoft proclaims mercedes is now obsolete and that Yugo Luxury edition available soon for much higher prices. Bob they Young MIS manager buys a Yugo since everyone else has one and its the new standard. Bob starts the key and takes it to 55 mph - he's unconcerned about all the noise and smoke - he'll take it to the dealer - they always promise to fix it- Bob told Yugo Lux and repairs not currently available - perhaps closer to the year 2000. Bob drives around sheepishly for the next few years defending they Yugo and talking about all the improvements coming just around the corner. One day Bob starts the Yugo and it explodes with Bob in it in a huge fireball. Bob no longer has to worry about Social Security. Moral of the story???????

To: Holger Johannsen who wrote (5702)	11/18/1997 5:46:00 PM
From: DownSouth	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

>It is quite difficult to understand reality about NT because there is much hype created by MS and the media that one could easily think NT would be the only OS in the business world left which is up to any task. Fact: NT is absorbing the Novell, Banyan customer base (quickly). Fact: Major US government agencies are standardizing on NT for certain mission-critical applications (USArmy/USAirForce=MS Exchange, NASA=MS Exchange, for example.) Fact: The applications that once ran exclusively on Unix have been/are being ported to NT because these software companies perceive that there is great growth potential there. My observations are not based on what I read, but on what I see. (I sell information technology and visit major government IT sites every day. Full disclaimer: I sell products from Network Appliance, Inc.) The conclusion that I keep leaning toward IS that NT is slowing the growth of Unix as some organizations are now opting for NT when a few short months ago they would not have given it an consideration. (It would be interesting to know what percentage of revenue is coming from NEW customers for UNIX-based hardware manufacturers, versus revenue from existing customers.) >Nevertheless I still have my doubts about reliability I remember when there were issues about Unix reliability and security. That is about where NT is now. Those problems with Unix were satisfactorily solved when major customers shook those systems down in real world, large-scale implementations, told the engineers about the problems, and the engineers fixed them. That is where NT is now. (In my opinion, of course.) Additionally, third parties are rushing in with new products to solve the NT scalability issues. Off Topic: My wife, two adolescent children (at the time), and I lived in Bad Homburg, in the Taunus outside of FFM. My children attended FFM International School, where the population was 45% German and there were 42 countries represented. I was marketing to/supporting the US Forces and embassies in Europe. As a family, we travelled extensively. We saw almost all of West Germany and were among the first Americans to cross the border into East Germany and travel unencumbered. We did NOT want to come back home! We found (almost) everything to be very agreeable with us, although we did have to go to UK about twice a year to decompress from the structure of the German culture (no offense intended--its just a cultural compatabilty thing.) But, I believe if one is to live in Europe, Germany is the place to be. I know that lots of changes have occured since we left in 1991 (as the Gulf War was cranking up--that's another story!) Yes, I am in the process of relocating from Washington, DC, area (Maryland) to Georgia, where I cover a 7-state geographic territory. I am from Alabama, so I am coming back home, perhaps to stay.