To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (110156 ) 8/9/2011 1:49:30 AM From: Paul V. Read Replies (3) | Respond to Jorj, But, calmer voices and a problem-solving approach must prevail. From what I see in the following you have no idea as to what you are suggesting and the what is at stake in the positions you are taking. If you had any idea of the consequences of what you are proposing you would run to your hole and pull in on top of your. You need to read, one of the articles by Saul, "Ends Justifies the Means," and many of the individuals your confrontation tactics would impact. Additionally, you need to understand the Machiavellianism approach of what your behavior would lead. You trained and worked with these people, right? No! I did not work specifically with these individuals at this specific time. But, yes I am familiar with their organizations. Guess what, saner people will prevail. They are waking up and they are pissed off. And being pissed off doesn't make one insane. Tomorrow we will see the outcome of the elections of recall in Wisconsin. It is time to drive a stake through the heart of the progressive movement. And if Alinsky tactics are needed to do it, well, all is fair in love and war, eh? But, many individuals are not adverse to physical violence when their self-interest or livelihood is threatened. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs come into play. The huge masses can overwhelm the legal system and then threaten our Republic. Why do you think that the Tea Party came into existence? It's because the PROGRESSIVE PARASITES are threatening the livilihood of hard working Americans. The progressives are risking their effort, time and at some times jail time for the hard working middle class Americans regarding wages and fringes, hours and conditions of employment. I really do not comprehend why you believe that the progressives are not for the hard working man/woman. Please clarify what you mean in, "threatening the livlihood of hard working Americans." In all of my dealing with United Mine Workers, Operating Engineers, Pipefitters, SIEU, Police, Firefighters, College Professors, Labors, Factory Workers, Teamsters, Communication Workers, and public and private employees, etc. I perceived that we were working for hard working Americans including those who have lost their jobs. But, SCABS, that is a different matter. The SCABS are reducing/lowering the standard of living of the lower and middle class. Just look what is happening to wages, fringes and working conditions of the lower and middle classes. Face it, the PROGRESSIVE PARASITES have abused the power they had. They should have given up the Alinsky crap 3.5 years ago. And now that it is being used against them, they are crying "foul". Progressives are a bunch of hypocrites. No, they are not crying "foul," They will escalate as far as necessary to get the job done, politically and otherwise!!!! The biggest mistake that conservatives can do is to stop the process of burying the progressive movement until the progressives tap out and get out of American politics. Until then, I pray we don't waste this crisis. ...oh, and I love how you use that sane voice when you point out that individuals will resort to physical violence when their self interest and livelihood are threatened. You use a nice calm voice while pointing out that there is potential violence. I'll tell ya what, threatening my livelihood is a passive-aggressive form of violence. Ever heard of Gandi!! Let's see how objective you are, in the past 3 years, who do you think has dominated the media with messages of hate and violence?
