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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (99884)8/20/2011 12:10:26 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
He folded like the origami chicken he is.
He deserted his base, because of bad karma , his base is deserting him.



PROMISES, PROMISES: Obama shies away from protests2011-03-16 09:30:00
Union leaders urged Vice President Joe Biden during a White House meeting last month to go to Wisconsin and rally the faithful in their fight against Gov. Scott Walker's move to curtail collective bargaining rights for most public employees.

Request rebuffed, they asked for Labor Secretary Hilda Solis.

So far, however, the White House has stayed away from any trips to Madison, the state capital, or other states in the throes of union battles. The Obama administration is treading carefully on the contentious political issue that has led to a national debate over the power that public sector unions wield in negotiating wages and benefits.

A few labor leaders have complained openly that President Barack Obama is ignoring a campaign pledge he made to stand with unions; most others say his public comments have been powerful enough.

The stakes are high as Obama looks toward a grueling re-election campaign. Republicans have begun airing television ads linking Obama to "union bosses" standing in the way of budget cuts in Wisconsin, Ohio and other states.

As a candidate, Obama seemed to promise more to organized labor, among the Democratic Party's most loyal constituencies.

"If American workers are being denied their right to organize and collectively bargain when I'm in the White House, I'll put on a comfortable pair of shoes myself," Obama said at a speech in 2007. "I'll walk on that picket line with you as president of the United States of America because workers deserve to know that somebody is standing in their corner."

Rose Ann DeMoro, executive director of National Nurses United, the nation's largest nurses union, called Obama "largely a bystander" in the debate over collective bargaining. "I think we're feeling a sense of betrayal from him and not liking it much," she said.

Doug Schoen, a Democratic political strategist, said Obama's strategy seems to be "keep your distance, avoid direct engagement, say most of the right things most of the time, and hope for resolution through sources other than your own."

Walker on Friday signed a bill that strips most collective bargaining rights from the state's public workers, except police and firefighters. The measure passed the Legislature following more than three weeks of protests that drew tens of thousands of people to the state Capitol in opposition. The governor had announced his plan on Feb. 11, saying his state was broke and there was no point negotiating with the unions when there was nothing to offer.

The request for Biden to travel to Wisconsin came from Gerald McEntee, president of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, according to two union officials familiar with the Feb. 24 meeting. The officials requested anonymity because the meeting was private.

Five days later, during the AFL-CIO winter meeting, McEntee told Obama senior adviser David Plouffe that unions wanted more than words, the officials said. McEntee told Plouffe they wanted a high-profile emissary to stand with protesters to show that the president was by their side.

A spokesman for McEntee, Gregory King, declined comment on the substance of the private meetings, but said the union is "pleased with the support we've received from the Obama administration."

Biden's press secretary, Elizabeth Alexander, declined to elaborate on Biden's discussions with union leaders or say why he had not gone to Madison. She said Biden was "obviously very supportive" of labor, had a long history of fighting for collective bargaining rights and, along with Obama, has been "very involved in what has been going on in Wisconsin both privately and publicly from day one."

Obama has called Walker's proposal an "assault on unions" and urged governors not to vilify public workers. After the state Senate relied on a procedural move Thursday to pass the anti-bargaining rights measure without any Democrats in the chamber, White House spokesman Jay Carney said Obama believes it is wrong for Wisconsin to use its budget troubles "to denigrate or vilify public sector employees."

Solis also pledged her support for public employees on a phone call with thousands of members of the Communications Workers of America.

"Budget sacrifices are one thing but, demanding that workers give up their voice is another," Solis told the union members.

But asked whether Solis would go to Wisconsin or any other state where protesters are rallying, spokesman Carl Fillichio said she's "keeping an eye on the situation."

DeMoro, from the nurses' union, has been reminding Obama about his 2007 campaign promise to walk with union members. She has even sent out press releases offering to buy the president a pair of shoes to march with demonstrators.

"Standing with the embattled workers would be an important symbol," DeMoro said.

There's no question that Obama will keep getting strong re-election support from organized labor. But he stands the risk that unions won't be as enthusiastic if he is too aloof about the attack on bargaining rights. On the other hand, it's possible that unions will be so consumed with their own efforts to save bargaining rights, recall governors or other issues of self-preservation that they won't have the time to work on Obama's behalf with full vigor.

Schoen, the Democratic consultant, said Obama is "trying to have it both ways."

If the budget-cutting tactics of Walker and GOP Gov. John Kasich of Ohio are successful, Obama doesn't want to be seen as aggressively taking sides, Schoen said. If they fail, the president can say he was always on the side of the unions.

Most union leaders have praised Obama in public for offering support with his words. Some believe it may be better for him to stay out so Republicans can't claim the protests are being organized in a grand political move.

"Obama needed to hang back and let people fully understand this is being run by the people of Wisconsin, not by the Democratic Party leadership," said Greg Junemann, president of the International Federal of Professional and Technical Engineers.

Both parties already are using Wisconsin to try to boost their political fortunes.

Crossroads GPS, a group organized by former Bush advisers Karl Rove and Ed Gillespie, announced this past week that it would spend $750,000 on national cable television ads supporting Walker and the Wisconsin Republicans.

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee on Thursday set a goal of raising $100,000 in 24 hours from angry voters opposing the Wisconsin legislation.

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Associated Press writer Jim Kuhnhenn contributed to this report.

EDITOR'S NOTE _ An occasional look at promises by public officials and how well they are kept.

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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (99884)8/20/2011 9:58:35 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 149317
 
Chinu, Obama said he would do that! He said it, and implied it, over and over. No one brought up that it might not be presidential at the time, as I remember.

He said it. So, when one runs for office and says they will do stuff, we liberals expect them to be good to their word. We liberals do not just say things and then not keep our word.

Do moderates?

<<Zeta, if the President has to go and stand in the picket lines, then it is an insult to the Presidency. It is a tacit admission that the Presidency is not powerful enough to get things done. Obama has sympathized with those folks. Besides, Michelle is probably smarter than Barack. She knows that is not for a President to stand in picket lines.



To: ChinuSFO who wrote (99884)8/20/2011 11:06:15 PM
From: zeta1961  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 149317
 
Chinu if the President has to go and stand in the picket lines, then it is an insult to the Presidency. It is a tacit admission that the Presidency is not powerful enough to get things done. Obama has sympathized with those folks. Besides, Michelle is probably smarter than Barack. She knows that is not for a President to stand in picket lines.

That's an interesting angle....I'll have to think about it....My thoughts:he would have been applauded by not only those in WI but by an entire country of middle class people(Ds and Rs alike) who are struggling to get by.

Who cares how the GOP paints him. They've been busy painting him in all kinds of ways since the election campaign......

He's good at threading the needle----he could have used this opportunity to make it clear he supports business innovation, etc, etc at the same time he supports the middle class...that they should not be funding a crisis whose genesis was on Wall Street.

As Metacomet said so eloquently in one of his posts, even if taking this stand cost him a term, he would have gone fighting for what is right, what is moral and what is a POTUS job.....imo..

what it takes to understand him in its totality and not merely instance by instance such as not standing in the picket lines in WI.


Oh, this was one of several different important instances in which he could have shown what he stands for.....Can anyone really say with certainty, this far into his presidency, what he stands for, what is it that he'll risk his presidency because it's the right thing to do? Instead of governing while in campaign mode. All prez do this...not singling him out here but I wish for once in my lifetime, I can witness a president who is governing without regard for re-election.


I'm hoping that after his midwest tour, and how the R's are being treated back home, he gets it that the middle class is fighting for its life right now....that he finds his inner Truman.


A rambling post...sorry!